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最初由 lomen 发布: 好端端的一个话题被你们糟蹋了 让我寒心... 一个自夸,一个自卖, 最后都是互相叫骂, 老板, 上市公司员工, 请手下留情,嘴下积德.... lomen 你当初"等你被LAYOFF就知道了"好想也不是很客气呀. 不过无所谓, 你要客气我也一样客气. 但对心理变态的小人我也决不手软. 我当初回复你的文字没见你再说什么呀? 如果你认为是个好话题, 不妨咱们继续讨论呀.
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人贩子, show us your manliness. We don't really care if you are rich or not. The thing that matters here is if you are able to support your opinions, which is largely missing in your previous posts. lomen, don't get too serious. People just want to have some fun here.
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让我寒心... 一个自夸,一个自卖, 最后都是互相叫骂, 老板, 上市公司员工, 请手下留情,嘴下积德....
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死穷鬼! 自己做托凡不烦! 还学人写英文,狗屁不通! 穷鬼都是赖! 不理你还不停发贴!怪不得有陈太事件!看来还有一定道理!死穷鬼!!!! 阿Q老板, 我在和FireFighter谈话呀, 并没有让你来理我呀. 不过你终于回来了, 回来就好. 我讲过, 你在这个论坛中(在现实生活中也一样)是最"才华横溢"的小丑之一. 我们大家都很爱看你的表演. 以你的"才华", 更脏的话, 跟狠的诅咒你也应该想出来呀. 继续表演吧, 别再走了. 哈哈! 希望管理员不要再删除阿Q老板的文字了. 让大家开心以下嘛. And hey FireFighter, look who's back - our great big joker boss! Isn't this exciting? 🙂 Anyway I've had enough fun this week, I'm sure I'll have a great weekend🙂 Hope everyone has a nice weekend too!
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最初由 ordinaryGuy 发布: I knew it, I was a little bit too harsh when I was expressing my sickness over those real whiners/losers. And if someone was to blame me on this, I'll except it, and I'll take those harsh words back. As a matter of fact, I totally respect those people who's been struggling, who's been working hard trying to make a better life for themselves and their families. And, as I said before, I can understand the difficult feelings those people have when they couldn't find jobs for a long time, or when they got laid off. Life is not easy, everyone has to fight to have a better life. And - fighting for a better life - is exactly how I have gone through these years in Canada. However, what I'm really sick of, are those REAL losers. People who couldn't find jobs, people who got laid off, are NOT losers. But, people who refuse to face the reality, who's blaming everything else but themselves, ARE REAL LOSERS! 死穷鬼! 自己做托凡不烦! 还学人写英文,狗屁不通! 穷鬼都是赖! 不理你还不停发贴!怪不得有陈太事件!看来还有一定道理!死穷鬼!!!! Unfortunately, those kind of losers are not just a few, but a lot among Chinese people in Canada. And those people are trying to tell the whole world - Canada is a worst country! No jobs here! No opportunities here! No fairness here! Blah, blah, blah... But why? Only because they are not good enough, only because they couldn't find jobs and can't have good life? So they deserve to blame the whole world? Do you think that's fair? See, those kind of people are what I'm really really sick of! Oh, and yes me too, I really missing the "big boss". Anyone knows that guy? Tell him to come back, we miss him. 🙂 (实际上, 有场好戏大家没看到, 很可惜. 我们的阿Q老板发的最后两篇文字被删除了. 在那两篇文字中, 老板已经狗急跳墙了. 什么话脏就说什么, 什么诅咒狠讲什么. 完全没有了"国际商业巨子"大老板的风度. 那种变态的心理已经表演的淋漓尽致了. 看了让人忍不住地笑. 我想建议以下这里的管理员, 实际不用删除什么. 让阿Q老板多表演表演, 让大家看看, 笑笑, 娱乐一下也未尝不可吗. 🙂)
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To be frank, I totally back your ideas that new comers are by and large fairly treated in Canada. I am just a little reserved about the way you pointed out that fact. You know there are still tons of people struggling out there. Don't you think it's a little too harsh to blame them as losers, some of who may just need a little more luck to go through all the temporary difficulties? Plus, people do need a place to vent.I know you are a very smart and well-educated guy, but you may want to be a nice person as well who can think the issue over from other peoples perspectives. I knew it, I was a little bit too harsh when I was expressing my sickness over those real whiners/losers. And if someone was to blame me on this, I'll except it, and I'll take those harsh words back. As a matter of fact, I totally respect those people who's been struggling, who's been working hard trying to make a better life for themselves and their families. And, as I said before, I can understand the difficult feelings those people have when they couldn't find jobs for a long time, or when they got laid off. Life is not easy, everyone has to fight to have a better life. And - fighting for a better life - is exactly how I have gone through these years in Canada. However, what I'm really sick of, are those REAL losers. People who couldn't find jobs, people who got laid off, are NOT losers. But, people who refuse to face the reality, who's blaming everything else but themselves, ARE REAL LOSERS! Unfortunately, those kind of losers are not just a few, but a lot among Chinese people in Canada. And those people are trying to tell the whole world - Canada is a worst country! No jobs here! No opportunities here! No fairness here! Blah, blah, blah... But why? Only because they are not good enough, only because they couldn't find jobs and can't have good life? So they deserve to blame the whole world? Do you think that's fair? See, those kind of people are what I'm really really sick of! Oh, and yes me too, I really missing the "big boss". Anyone knows that guy? Tell him to come back, we miss him. 🙂 (实际上, 有场好戏大家没看到, 很可惜. 我们的阿Q老板发的最后两篇文字被删除了. 在那两篇文字中, 老板已经狗急跳墙了. 什么话脏就说什么, 什么诅咒狠讲什么. 完全没有了"国际商业巨子"大老板的风度. 那种变态的心理已经表演的淋漓尽致了. 看了让人忍不住地笑. 我想建议以下这里的管理员, 实际不用删除什么. 让阿Q老板多表演表演, 让大家看看, 笑笑, 娱乐一下也未尝不可吗. 🙂)
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To be frank, I totally back your ideas that new comers are by and large fairly treated in Canada. I am just a little reserved about the way you pointed out that fact. You know there are still tons of people struggling out there. Don't you think it's a little too harsh to blame them as losers, some of who may just need a little more luck to go through all the temporary difficulties? Plus, people do need a place to vent.I know you are a very smart and well-educated guy, but you may want to be a nice person as well who can think the issue over from other peoples perspectives. Regarding 人贩子, I would be definitely disappointed if he doesn’t show up again fighting seriously. He is quite a funny character.
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Very interesting argument between "ordinaryGuy" and "人贩子". I have to agree that "ordinaryGuy" presented his thoughts in a much more logic way. But "人贩子" remains cool and confident by constantly reminding people he is a wealthier 人贩子, a factor people should never overlook. Way to go! Right FireFighter. And you know what? I was actually having fun with that "人贩子". I mean, I stand firmly behind my points, I'm definitely not having fun on those. I love Canada, and I don't believe Canada as a country is treating new comers unfairly. I always look down on those people, who blame the whole world but themselves. They are real losers. Talking about that "人贩子" , everyone can see he's just a joker, both in this forum and in real life. Don't you think looking at this joker playing on the stage is pretty entertaining? and don't you think this is fun? 🙂 Tell you what, I really start to miss this joker, and I've almost changed my mind - I want to keep arguing with him. Don't tell me this is not a good entertainment for everyone in this forum. Life in Winter is boring sometimes, we got to have some fun once in a while, heh? 🙂 By the way, I salute you if you are a real fire fighter🙂 Hahahaha.........
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Very interesting argument between "ordinaryGuy" and "人贩子". I have to agree that "ordinaryGuy" presented his thoughts in a much more logic way. But "人贩子" remains cool and confident by constantly reminding people he is a wealthier 人贩子, a factor people should never overlook. Way to go!
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我没说错,你都认了!"去一年我们就收购了Alberta的一家公司和美国的一家公司." 因你们上市旧才没给吞,什么公死板啊,你敢让我批一下你有多旧命?! 我的不旧才一年, 我也想让人收购.不过你就惨点, 哈达谁叫你穷!!!!! 这位"大老板". 我在想, 你是不是因为在国际商界中所获得的"成功"还远远不能令你满足, 想以其他方式"战胜"别人, 以多获得一些满足? 所以跑到这个论坛和我争个输赢. (啊, 我是不是又"发神经"了, 你在世界上有那么多公司, 哪有时间来和我争呀?) 可是, 你自己看看你说了些什么. 一会儿说我们这种"小公司"不用一年就会被人吞并, 一会儿又说我们公司寿命不过5年, 转头又说我们因为"旧"才没被吞并. 东拉西扯, 不知所云. 却从来不谈一个字的正题. 如果你仅仅是为了争个输赢, 想起什么就扯什么, 而不管我们在讨论的正题是什么. 那么, 我告诉你, 我不和你争了, 你赢了! 怎么样? 满足了吗? 我更加认为你好可怜...... 阿Q老板!
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最初由 ordinaryGuy 发布: 回复:回复:回复:回复:旅加华人工程师到了最艰难的时刻 我们的"小公司"已经上市近十年了. 仅过去一年我们就收购了Alberta的一家公司和美国的一家公司. 我没说错,你都认了!"去一年我们就收购了Alberta的一家公司和美国的一家公司." 因你们上市旧才没给吞,什么公死板啊,你敢让我批一下你有多旧命?! 我的不旧才一年, 我也想让人收购.不过你就惨点, 哈达谁叫你穷!!!!!
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最初由 人贩子 发布: 回复:回复:回复:旅加华人工程师到了最艰难的时刻 发神经,我在这和大路都有公死,谁有空"诅咒我你的公司",这是事实,北美小公死一般不过5年, CANADA更糟. 我看你也差不多. 这位大老板, 拖你的福, 我们的"小公司"已经上市近十年了. 仅过去一年我们就收购了Alberta的一家公司和美国的一家公司. 你在这里和大"路"都有公司, 而你的经验又说这里的"小公司"寿命不过5年. 你是否预计过你在这里的"大"公司有多少年寿命呢? 而且, 我不知道大"路"是那个国家, 如果你是说中国的话, 那你在那里的公司又有几年寿命呢? 这位"大老板", 你不用迫不及待地表明你多么了不起, 在全世界有多少多少公司. 你就算是一个微不足道的小人物, 如果可以以理服人, 一样可以受人尊敬. 用不着宣扬你在世界各地有多少公司来博得别人的尊敬. 反过来说, 就算你是IBM的老板, 也并不自动说明你讲的话就都有道理. 更何况, 你到目前为止, 还一句正题没谈过. 我们在说, 人们是否可以因为自己找不到工作就谴责加拿大不公平. 没人想和你斗富. 你还是可笑. 哈!
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最初由 ordinaryGuy 发布: 回复:回复:旅加华人工程师到了最艰难的时刻 你这人倒是真可笑, 你就算明天就倒闭又怎样呢? 就自动说明我讲的所有话没有道理了? 就自动证明你"赢"了? 你太滑稽了. 看来, 你也是心里郁闷的那一类人. 但是你连道理都不愿意讲. 只在这里靠诅咒别人而发泄一下....... 你很可悲, 我可怜你. 发神经,我在这和大路都有公死,谁有空"诅咒我你的公司",这是事实,北美小公死一般不过5年, CANADA更糟. 我看你也差不多.
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最初由 人贩子 发布: 回复:旅加华人工程师到了最艰难的时刻 我以为是谁, 在刚上市的小公死.做, 当然请从大学毕业的学生. CHEAP !. 不过一年你们的公死会让人收购. I can bet 你这人倒是真可笑, 你就算诅咒我的公司明天就倒闭又怎样呢? 就自动说明我讲的所有话没有道理了? 就自动证明你"赢"了? 你太滑稽了. 看来, 你也是心里郁闷的那一类人. 但是你连道理都不愿意讲. 只在这里靠诅咒别人而发泄一下....... 你很可悲, 我可怜你.
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最初由 lomen 发布: 等你被LAYOFF 的时候就知道了........ 我就算没有被LAYOFF, 同样可以理解那些被LAYOFF或长时间找不到工作的人的艰辛和心里的郁闷. 但是, 这并不等于他们有理由对加拿大发表不负责任的看法. 所谓的"不是我们不够努力,只因为我们是异乡人", 无非是想说加拿大排外, 劳动市场不公平. 而他们长时间找不到工作, 凭什么就不能说明他们本身的能力有限呢? 失败并不丢人, 没什么人可以做什么事情都成功. 但不肯也不敢面对现实, 怨天尤人, 不从自己身上找问题才是懦夫的十足表现.
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最初由 ordinaryGuy 发布: 旅加华人工程师到了最艰难的时刻 我在一家上市的软件公司工作, 在最近不到半年内, 公司就招了三个刚刚从大学毕业的学生. 那些找不到工作的人把"北美是个十分看重工作经验的地方"与"北美是个只看重工作经验的地方"画上等号, 来掩盖自己的无能, 实在让人看不起. 抱怨其他一切事物是懦夫的另一个典型表现. 其实我觉得, 如果不喜欢加拿大生活, 认为这里太艰苦, 那就承认自己当初的选择是错误的, 回中国去吧, 这本来无可厚非, 也没什么丢人的. 可为什么还要编造出一些冠冕堂皇的理由呢? 不是你们不努力, 不是你们没学问, 不是你们眼光短浅, 不是你们贪图虚荣赶出国潮流, 不是你们自己的任何问题. 是加拿大对你们不公平, 是这个社会急功近利, 是所有其他人的问题. 仿佛你们是这个世界上最冤的冤大头, 人人都想欺负你们. 这种懦夫式的抱怨在中国人当中实在听到太多了. 你们当初出来时根本是抱着一种虚荣心, 别人出国你们也出国, 难道你们以为加拿大是满地黄金等你们捡吗? 现在打退堂鼓了, 又想在朋友面前留点面子, 所以告诉大家 - 不是我无能, 是加拿大对不起我. 每次听到这种抱怨都让我感到讨厌和恶心. 大方地承认自己选择错误, 不适应加拿大生活又怎么了? 没人会因此笑话你们. 请你们这些懦夫不要一次又一次地验证中国的那句老话 - 当婊子又要立牌坊! 我以为是谁, 在刚上市的小公死.做, 当然请从大学毕业的学生. CHEAP !. 不过一年你们的公死会让人收购. I can bet
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高科技华人工程师的失业遭遇,令留学生不能不面对一个事实──北美是个十分看重工作经验的地方,有经验的工程师找工作都像大海捞针,何况刚刚走出校门的学生?“我们究竟在加拿大干什么?”这个问题,目前正在加拿大一个华人网站上讨论着,吸引了不少留学生和新移民跟贴。其中一个已在渥太华大学毕业的硕士生说,他毕业前半年就开始找工作,但在当时的情况下,找到工作的机率几乎是零。 我在一家上市的软件公司工作, 在最近不到半年内, 公司就招了三个刚刚从大学毕业的学生. 那些找不到工作的人把"北美是个十分看重工作经验的地方"与"北美是个只看重工作经验的地方"画上等号, 来掩盖自己的无能, 实在让人看不起. 他说:“我喜欢加拿大规范的社会运行方式,但却厌倦了那种生活的艰难。不是我们不够努力,只因为我们是异乡人。” 抱怨其他一切事物是懦夫的另一个典型表现. 其实我觉得, 如果不喜欢加拿大生活, 认为这里太艰苦, 那就承认自己当初的选择是错误的, 回中国去吧, 这本来无可厚非, 也没什么丢人的. 可为什么还要编造出一些冠冕堂皇的理由呢? 不是你们不努力, 不是你们没学问, 不是你们眼光短浅, 不是你们贪图虚荣赶出国潮流, 不是你们自己的任何问题. 是加拿大对你们不公平, 是这个社会急功近利, 是所有其他人的问题. 仿佛你们是这个世界上最冤的冤大头, 人人都想欺负你们. 这种懦夫式的抱怨在中国人当中实在听到太多了. 你们当初出来时根本是抱着一种虚荣心, 别人出国你们也出国, 难道你们以为加拿大是满地黄金等你们捡吗? 现在打退堂鼓了, 又想在朋友面前留点面子, 所以告诉大家 - 不是我无能, 是加拿大对不起我. 每次听到这种抱怨都让我感到讨厌和恶心. 大方地承认自己选择错误, 不适应加拿大生活又怎么了? 没人会因此笑话你们. 请你们这些懦夫不要一次又一次地验证中国的那句老话 - 当婊子又要立牌坊!
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