最初由 Sedona 发布：
回复：请问一下NAP对中国人权的看法是否和哈珀总理一样
According to a a local English newspaper (Province?) in British Columbia, President Chen in an interview refused to comment human rights in China, same sex marriage and a few others.
We can't tell the NAP position on human rights.
如果是一个社区社团性组织，当然清晰人权的问题不很重要。
对一个政党来说，这个问题怎么能够回避？
尤其是声称代表基层人民利益，为基层人民争取人权的政党？
回避这个问题，怎么能让NAP取信人民？
最初由 哪吒 发布：
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I certify that I meet these Conditions of Member
a. I am a Canadian Citizen or Permanent resident of Canada
b. I actively support for the founding principles of the NAP
c. I am at least 18 years of age
If you view the paragraph I took from NAP application form as a great value eviidence to support your opinion, I think you are wrong because these are common sense. However, if they could use referral, it should be better.
Common sense?????
Counterfeits in Yiwu are common sense, based on your logic.
The bottom line is NAP copies from PC. Period.
No more discussion if you don't see no evil, see no evil and hear no evil.
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哪吒
2007-07-27 13:58
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最初由 Sedona 发布：
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Go to https://secure.conservative.ca/1209/
Do not click the pdf form. This page is an online application. Move down to the middle. You will see the following (just below the paragraph in red):
Conditions of Membership:
To become a member of the Conservative Party of Canada you must:
• Be a Canadian citizen or permanent resident of Canada
• Actively support the founding principles of the Conservative Party of Canada
• Be at least 14 years of age
I certify that I meet these Conditions of Member
a. I am a Canadian Citizen or Permanent resident of Canada
b. I actively support for the founding principles of the NAP
c. I am at least 18 years of age
If you view the paragraph I took from NAP application form as a great value eviidence to support your opinion, I think you are wrong because these are common sense. However, if they could use referral, it should be better.
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Sedona
2007-07-27 13:45
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最初由 哪吒 发布：
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What was your point?
Your point was that "NAP copies the membership application form from that of the Conservative Party of Canada", right?
If they (please see below) are not the membership application forms, what is the membership application form?
http://www.nationalliance.com/Engli...-membership.doc
http://secure.conservative.ca/media...bershipForm.pdf
Go to https://secure.conservative.ca/1209/
Do not click the pdf form. This page is an online application. Move down to the middle. You will see the following (just below the paragraph in red):
Conditions of Membership:
To become a member of the Conservative Party of Canada you must:
• Be a Canadian citizen or permanent resident of Canada
• Actively support the founding principles of the Conservative Party of Canada
• Be at least 14 years of age
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Sedona
2007-07-27 13:41
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最初由 冰点雨 发布：
请问一下NAP对中国人权的看法是否和哈珀总理一样
According to a a local English newspaper (Province?) in British Columbia, President Chen in an interview refused to comment human rights in China, same sex marriage and a few others.
We can't tell the NAP position on human rights.
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哪吒
2007-07-27 13:41
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最初由 Sedona 发布：
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My service. Copied and pasted for you from PC web site.
https://secure.conservative.ca/1209/
Become A Member
To download the membership form, please click here
To download a family/household membership form please click here
If you would like to join the Party by phone, please contact us directly at 1-866-808-8407. You can also reach our membership department by email at
To join the Conservative Party of Canada using this website you must be joining as an individual or as a family member living in the same household.
If you would like to purchase a membership for another person and you do not meet the conditions outlined below please call the Membership Services department at 1-866-808-8407 and one of our customer service agents will be happy to help you with your membership purchase and answer any questions you may have.
All successful membership purchases will be confirmed with a reference number once they have been successfully submitted. You will also receive a confirmation e-mail that includes your reference number. Should you not receive a reference number from the website or a confirmation e-mail, please call the Membership Services department at 1-866-808-8407 and one of our customer service agents will be happy to help you with your membership purchase by phone.
Conditions of Membership:
To become a member of the Conservative Party of Canada you must:
• Be a Canadian citizen or permanent resident of Canada
• Actively support the founding principles of the Conservative Party of Canada
• Be at least 14 years of age
If purchasing this membership for a family/household member I certify that
• Each of the new or renewing members is a member of my household and related to me and comply with the above conditions of membership
• Each membership paid for by my credit card has been bought with funds belonging to each of the new or renewing members and with their consent
Please note that membership fees are non-receiptable. Membership cards will be issued by mail.
What was your point?
Your point was that "NAP copies the membership application form from that of the Conservative Party of Canada", right?
If they (please see below) are not the membership application forms, what is the membership application form?
http://www.nationalliance.com/Engli...-membership.doc
http://secure.conservative.ca/media...bershipForm.pdf
I got confused.
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Sedona
2007-07-27 13:34
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最初由 哪吒 发布：
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It's the same website after you opened the application form through your link.
My service. Copied and pasted for you from PC web site.
https://secure.conservative.ca/1209/
Become A Member
To download the membership form, please click here
To download a family/household membership form please click here
If you would like to join the Party by phone, please contact us directly at 1-866-808-8407. You can also reach our membership department by email at
To join the Conservative Party of Canada using this website you must be joining as an individual or as a family member living in the same household.
If you would like to purchase a membership for another person and you do not meet the conditions outlined below please call the Membership Services department at 1-866-808-8407 and one of our customer service agents will be happy to help you with your membership purchase and answer any questions you may have.
All successful membership purchases will be confirmed with a reference number once they have been successfully submitted. You will also receive a confirmation e-mail that includes your reference number. Should you not receive a reference number from the website or a confirmation e-mail, please call the Membership Services department at 1-866-808-8407 and one of our customer service agents will be happy to help you with your membership purchase by phone.
Conditions of Membership:
To become a member of the Conservative Party of Canada you must:
• Be a Canadian citizen or permanent resident of Canada
• Actively support the founding principles of the Conservative Party of Canada
• Be at least 14 years of age
If purchasing this membership for a family/household member I certify that
• Each of the new or renewing members is a member of my household and related to me and comply with the above conditions of membership
• Each membership paid for by my credit card has been bought with funds belonging to each of the new or renewing members and with their consent
Please note that membership fees are non-receiptable. Membership cards will be issued by mail.
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哪吒
2007-07-27 13:15
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最初由 Sedona 发布：
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First, you have to trust others.
Second, if you don't trust others, perform your due diligence before tossing in any challenge.
Yours is pdf. Mine is online application.
See the link:
https://secure.conservative.ca/1209/
I would like to share your intelligence on this matter, i.e. the behaviour of NAP.
It's the same website after you opened the application form through your link.
最初由 哪吒 发布：
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How did you judge that "NAP copies the membership application form from that of the Conservative Party of Canada"? 😕
Please see two application forms below:
http://www.nationalliance.com/English-form-membership.doc
http://secure.conservative.ca/media/20060110-MembershipForm.pdf
First, you have to trust others.
Second, if you don't trust others, perform your due diligence before tossing in any challenge.
Yours is pdf. Mine is online application.
See the link:
https://secure.conservative.ca/1209/
I would like to share your intelligence on this matter, i.e. the behaviour of NAP.
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哪吒
2007-07-27 12:49
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最初由 Sedona 发布：
Email Sent to NAP
President Chen:
It is a shame on you guys that NAP copies the membership application form from that of the Conservative Party of Canada. I have expressed my concerns in 51 forum. See the link: http://www.51.ca/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=143076&pagenumber=2
I will alert the Conservative Party of Canada.
Sedona
How did you judge that "NAP copies the membership application form from that of the Conservative Party of Canada"? 😕
Please see two application forms below:
http://www.nationalliance.com/English-form-membership.doc
http://secure.conservative.ca/media/20060110-MembershipForm.pdf
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2007-07-27 12:46
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最初由 Sedona 发布：
回复：加国华人筹组民族联盟党引发强烈反响
I will shut up when NAP moves into the Parliament Hill, and leave the country. This is Canada. Our value is freedom of speech.
You guys only say how great NAP is, so NAP will never receive any constructive criticism for improvement.
To give NAP the credit, they listen, not like you. They have re-written the section of "Primary Purpose" to "Ideologies". Though not perfect, it is an improvement.
See the new version below:
Nation Alliance Party's ideologies:
1) To strive for equality and cooperation among all individuals and states.
Coexistence is possible only in equality, and harmony is founded on the basis of unity and mutual understanding.
2) A deep commitment to non-violence.
Internationally, Canada has always taken up the role of pacifist, therefore our ideologies match up to our national image.
3) To construct cooperatively our homeland.
Canada is a multicultural nation. Government policies are formulated in accordance with the desires of the entire population only with the participation of all ethnicities and social groups, and only then may win the support of majority and minority groups.
4) To pay attention to the concerns of ethnic minorities.
Presently, the concerns faced by ethnic minority groups have yet to obtain the required attention from various levels of government. Nation Alliance Party will henceforth present our suggestions regarding this issue for reference to the party in power and all levels of government. Our aim is to participate collaboratively in community and national development.
5) To support political election candidates belonging to ethnic minorities.
Only through participation may concern be demonstrated, and encouraging all individuals to follow national events are one of our party's important tasks.
6) To greaten employment possibilities, further refine investment opportunities, and promote local economic development.
7) To improve local public security, medical services and educational systems.
The above as our party's ideologies and objectives, specific proposals will be successively raised by us in the coming future.
Well done, both NAP and Sedona.
最初由 lxhlxj 发布：
加国华人筹组民族联盟党引发强烈反响
自以为是白人的假洋鬼子闭嘴!
加籍华人和其它任何族裔的人都可以组党,这就是民主权利,
你无权反对并对组党者进行人身攻击!
别弄个白不白黑不黑的黑白不是人!
I will shut up when NAP moves into the Parliament Hill, and leave the country. This is Canada. Our value is freedom of speech.
You guys only say how great NAP is, so NAP will never receive any constructive criticism for improvement.
To give NAP the credit, they listen, not like you. They have re-written the section of "Primary Purpose" to "Ideologies". Though not perfect, it is an improvement.
See the new version below:
Nation Alliance Party's ideologies:
1) To strive for equality and cooperation among all individuals and states.
Coexistence is possible only in equality, and harmony is founded on the basis of unity and mutual understanding.
2) A deep commitment to non-violence.
Internationally, Canada has always taken up the role of pacifist, therefore our ideologies match up to our national image.
3) To construct cooperatively our homeland.
Canada is a multicultural nation. Government policies are formulated in accordance with the desires of the entire population only with the participation of all ethnicities and social groups, and only then may win the support of majority and minority groups.
4) To pay attention to the concerns of ethnic minorities.
Presently, the concerns faced by ethnic minority groups have yet to obtain the required attention from various levels of government. Nation Alliance Party will henceforth present our suggestions regarding this issue for reference to the party in power and all levels of government. Our aim is to participate collaboratively in community and national development.
5) To support political election candidates belonging to ethnic minorities.
Only through participation may concern be demonstrated, and encouraging all individuals to follow national events are one of our party's important tasks.
6) To greaten employment possibilities, further refine investment opportunities, and promote local economic development.
7) To improve local public security, medical services and educational systems.
The above as our party's ideologies and objectives, specific proposals will be successively raised by us in the coming future.
最初由 Sedona 发布：
Email Sent to NAP
President Chen:
It is a shame on you guys that NAP copies the membership application form from that of the Conservative Party of Canada. I have expressed my concerns in 51 forum. See the link: http://www.51.ca/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=143076&pagenumber=2
I will alert the Conservative Party of Canada.
Sedona
You are doing the right thing. I absolutely support you. If my English is as good as yours, I would write a letter to news papers to express what I concern, to express another kind of voice of Chinese Canadians. I fear that Chinese Canadian’s image would damaged by NAP's absurd activities.
President Chen:
It is a shame on you guys that NAP copies the membership application form from that of the Conservative Party of Canada. I have expressed my concerns in 51 forum. See the link: http://www.51.ca/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=143076&pagenumber=2
I will alert the Conservative Party of Canada.
Sedona
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Sedona
2007-07-27 09:26
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义乌??????
In 义乌, we see so many faked brands everywhere. The local business copies Disney, Louis Vuitton and etc.
Unfortunately, we have seen 义乌 in Canadian politics.
Below is the membership application of the Conservative Party of Canada:
Conditions of Membership:
To become a member of the Conservative Party of Canada you must:
• Be a Canadian citizen or permanent resident of Canada
• Actively support the founding principles of the Conservative Party of Canada
• Be at least 14 years of age
The application to join the Liberal Party says:
Joining is easy! If you’re a Canadian resident, 14 years or older, and do not belong to another federal political party, simply fill out the required information on the screen and continue through the online forms.
Here is the membership application of the Nation Alliance Party:
I certify that I meet these Conditions of Member
a. I am a Canadian Citizen or Permanent resident of Canada
b. I actively support for the founding principles of the NAP
c. I am at least 18 years of age
Let alone the grammatical mistakes, NAP is not capable of creating their own membership application form.
Apparently, NAP copies from PC - a tradition from 义乌.
If NAP cannot create an application form without copying, how can we trust them to develop policies for the country and to lead us across the Red Sea.
I have sent an email to both NAP and PC.
最初由 不好玩的老玩童 发布：
一群骗子
I don't think so. From their web site contend and their English level and their posts here, I would rather say they are a group of ignorants. The cannot cheat anybody except Nu Cais.
加国华人筹组民族联盟党引发强烈反响