最初由 forsale2006 发布：
您是谁呀?不会是王医生本人吧?他应该非常忙,不会花时间到处找我的贴子.我没要求满意.我要求对人的最基本的尊重.每次看病,都象低声下气的求人.也许正因为我这样的人太多.才把许多象KAREN那样的护士惯的,以为他们有权给人脸色看.我也去过WALKIN 诊所,为什么人家的护士,对人耐心而且认真?没有比较,就不知道她的态度有多差.如果你是医生,最好先教你的护士去别的诊所参观一下,再来下决断,什么是该有的职业道德.
最好你是王医生,或者能和他说话的人.我的表达有线,看看别人怎么说的.
"I am sorry you must have experienced an unfortunate event in your life......"
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千岛湖渔夫
2007-10-25 18:26
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最初由 jan_ai Zhang 发布：
"Ding" this post !!!
But are you sure ??
He is sure from what he thought ! Look at "ffgg123"的东东:
"要小心谨慎，不要给那些势力香港人......", "有次吃饭正好....." =====> "原来他们都是上海人。"
哈哈, 难怪鲁迅不愿意行医.
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jan_ai Zhang
2007-10-25 17:31
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最初由 ffgg123 发布：
在杂志上看见过，好像是中国人的协会都不喜欢那个王医生，因为他架子很大，对于大陆人搞的协会不屑一顾，他们请他的时候，他通常都是不予理睬，可能现在知道大陆也有很多有钱人来加拿大，所以他现在希望大陆的人也去参加他们的协会或者晚会。
如果去，要小心谨慎，不要给那些势力香港人鄙视，有次吃饭正好在他们台子的隔壁，原来他们都是上海人。 😊
"Ding" this post !!!
But are you sure ??
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jan_ai Zhang
2007-10-25 17:30
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最初由 新租 发布：
史维会确实是实实在在干了一些事情
我支持他们尊重历史的实干行动，
支持他们在宣传上的努力。
"Ding" this post!
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千岛湖渔夫
2007-10-25 17:25
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最初由 Sedona 发布：
Thanks doctor for your patience. I am sick and tired of doctors, in Canada, China and all over the world. I stayed in the ward on the Caribbean Princess. Believe it or not I was hospitalized on a cruise ship, flied back to Toronto from Miami and drove to an emergency room myself for treatment. The doctor on the cruise ship is as bad as every doctor on land, attitude wise.
The two contemporary terms for professionals are: evidence based and outcome based. In 90s, evidence based drove me nuts. Now, it is the turn of outcome based. We measure everything to death.
I am sorry you must have experienced an unfortunate event in your life, but was it an unfair treatment from the doctors? People are dying every day, every where unfortunately. Medicine can neither change the death, nor cure some diseases. The difference is that people can get into the waiting list early by buying the time in other country, while in canada, you can't. No matter you are rich or poor, you have to wait in the same line. It's unfortunate , but not unfair !
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Sedona
2007-10-25 16:40
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最初由 kingston_MD 发布：
Your family doc is practicing the medicine in Canada called "Evidence Based Medicine" EBM, which means, 以实事为依据的诊治方式. The fact of the most common respiratory infections is that, >90% are viral infections which don't require antibiotics. Giving every patient antibiotics has caused increasing of drug resistance bacteria in the region or country. The key is to identify who needs, but certainly, not everyone !
毛主席说了，为人民服务，就要实事求是和全心全意。 Your family doc is 实事求是.
P.S: Something for your reference:
当前西方临床医学思维方式正在发生深刻的变化. 被誉为“21世纪临床医学新思维”的 "Evidence Based Medicine" EBM正广泛地被应用北美，加拿大的医疗实践中。 EBM 作为一种临床实践教育模式是由加拿大McMaster大学Gordon Guyatt领导的工作组于1992年正式命名，其定义为“应用最佳证据，通过谨慎，准确而明智的确认和评估，作出医学决策的实践活动”，是一种以“证据为基础”的概念和模式。它有别于传统临床医学的经验推理方法,因为临床经验会不可避免地存在一些非科学成分,甚至有害的疗法. EBM倡导证据应该来源于“随机、双盲、对照、大样本”的试验,但更强调强调的是使用当前最好证据,同时呼吁更高级证据的诞生. 传统的经验医学向以证据为基础的"Evidence Based Medicine"的转变，是临床医学发展的必然趋势.
Thanks doctor for your patience. I am sick and tired of doctors, in Canada, China and all over the world. I stayed in the ward on the Caribbean Princess. Believe it or not I was hospitalized on a cruise ship, flied back to Toronto from Miami and drove to an emergency room myself for treatment. The doctor on the cruise ship is as bad as every doctor on land, attitude wise.
The two contemporary terms for professionals are: evidence based and outcome based. In 90s, evidence based drove me nuts. Now, it is the turn of outcome based. We measure everything to death.
最初由 Sedona 发布：
My family doctor doesn't charge $20. Waiting time is less than 10 minutes. He never gives me any medication. Whenever sick, I am told to take a rest, drink more water and that's it. When I asked for a referral for free massage, he questioned if I would need it.
Who is a better doctor? I have no idea.
Your family doc is practicing the medicine in Canada called "Evidence Based Medicine" EBM, which means, 以实事为依据的诊治方式. The fact of the most common respiratory infections is that, >90% are viral infections which don't require antibiotics. Giving every patient antibiotics has caused increasing of drug resistance bacteria in the region or country. The key is to identify who needs, but certainly, not everyone !
毛主席说了，为人民服务，就要实事求是和全心全意。 Your family doc is 实事求是.
P.S: Something for your reference:
当前西方临床医学思维方式正在发生深刻的变化. 被誉为“21世纪临床医学新思维”的 "Evidence Based Medicine" EBM正广泛地被应用北美，加拿大的医疗实践中。 EBM 作为一种临床实践教育模式是由加拿大McMaster大学Gordon Guyatt领导的工作组于1992年正式命名，其定义为“应用最佳证据，通过谨慎，准确而明智的确认和评估，作出医学决策的实践活动”，是一种以“证据为基础”的概念和模式。它有别于传统临床医学的经验推理方法,因为临床经验会不可避免地存在一些非科学成分,甚至有害的疗法. EBM倡导证据应该来源于“随机、双盲、对照、大样本”的试验,但更强调强调的是使用当前最好证据,同时呼吁更高级证据的诞生. 传统的经验医学向以证据为基础的"Evidence Based Medicine"的转变，是临床医学发展的必然趋势.
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Sedona
2007-10-25 14:40
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最初由 forsale2006 发布：
这个王佳欲医生,他的护士KAREN都不说国语. 而且态度蛮横的说,她只说广东话和英语.这个护士对说广东话的有说有笑.对说国语的态度恶劣.
请问,他和他的诊所都说广东话,有什么资格在这里号召? 每次看病,预约时间还要多加等一个半小时,看5分钟. 还每年交二十元年费.
In my family doctor's office, there are my family doctor and the other doctor. My family doctor is a CBC and the other doctor has a Fujian background from Malaysia.
My mother and my siblings see the other one, but I see my family doctor because when I first saw him 25 years ago, he was the only one there that day, so I became his patient.
The other doctor charges $20 per year for an inclusive fee not covered by OHIP. He gives out anti-biotics to everyone regardless of the concern, writes sick leave on request and does anything patients ask. The wait is like 2 hours every visit.
My family doctor doesn't charge $20. Waiting time is less than 10 minutes. He never gives me any medication. Whenever sick, I am told to take a rest, drink more water and that's it. When I asked for a referral for free massage, he questioned if I would need it.
Who is a better doctor? I have no idea.
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