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祖国遭灾了,我们多伦多华人怎么办?

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Agree, I guess many people here are too complicated even for $15 tickets. If you're very new to the country and struggling for your survival, I fully understand. Otherwise, even there's no show, donating $15 worth your that much thoughts, I will suspect how much chance you will donate under any circumstance? Never? Once? Lots of people hates the status/government in Mainland, but if you're that type of person never considering helping others, how could you expect a country full of the people like you would be!!! Government is just a carrier of the spirits from the people in it. 最初由 晴天文化 发布: 回复:晴天文化 昨天还看到杨澜的一篇文章,她说大多数成功人士具有两个品质:简单和热情,因为简单能让人更加专注,而热情可以让人更加持久。 我不成功,但是我简单。 我现在只简简单单地希望3月1日能够有80%以上的上座率。
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本文的笔者想不通为什么俺们华人如此无动于衷,许多的网友已经给出许多的原因。我补充一点点,就是国内的各种官方媒体管道很少有发布关于这次受灾的惨烈场景(图片或视频),报道的都是某某中央省市大员到各地视察灾情,忙道只能在飞机上打开地图来研究灾情,各地从上到下斗志昂扬地积极展开救灾,生产生活一切都恢复正常了, 电视中仅有的雪灾画面基本上都是领导关心或者官兵井然有序地忙着,或是群众对党员干部感激涕零。如此总总,给我个人的印象就是雪灾不是很严重,而且政府已经把问题解决了,广州站的人都输送完了,只有几个人伤亡。现在你说救灾需几千亿,俺真的不信。 记得美国的奥尔良受灾时,美国的各家电视台都有现场直播,反复播放灾情的进展,居民的生活状况,还不时对政府的反应迟钝提出批评(本人不喜欢美国人,整天到处扔贫铀弹,变着法地研究毁灭全人类的武器)。 说这么多,祖国真的需要钱,咱还得捐。但是,这帮共产党们整天的歌舞升平,俺想起来就想吐。
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把自己摆在道德的制高点上而又名不副实 是很容易让别人厌恶的 特别是那些以社区领袖自居的人 更容易让人恶心
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你不是老赵的网友?整天在人家这里宣传自己的网站,还多高尚似的?如果我是老赵,决不会如此放纵你自己的广告行为。 最初由 了然 发布: 老赵的网友,我算服了
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所以在51.ca上发发感慨。 说不定3月1日去晚了,都没位置坐了,都有可能。
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最初由发布 祖国遭灾了,我们多伦多华人怎么办? 爱国对大多数人只是一种幌子,有的为了出名,有的为了图利. 以爱国的名义要求别人捐款或者干什么,我觉得有点类似于文革的时候以革命的名义强迫别人劳动一样. 很多人把国家当母亲,但是谁的母亲会在儿子进家门前先要花钱抽血,要不然就不让进家门? 谁的母亲会自己守着1万5千亿美圆的外汇不用,而让正在为温饱挣扎的儿子捐款? 谁的母亲会自己一顿饭成千上万,却让买杯咖啡都要考虑一番的儿子捐钱? 中国需要的是有钱的爱国华侨,对于穷人,它象讨厌乞丐一样讨厌你,我们就不要自做多情了. 好!这也是我现要说的
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no mean to offend. each and everyone of us should think. I don't believe there is anyone here who is hard hearted. And why the current Chinese society, even most of us are highly educated, are so cold. And simple things are complicated even when act on any good deed? GCD's control has greatly distorted people's mind. The bottom line here is the government lies to you for whatever reason. After have lied for so many years, nobody will believe anything. The show itself is good. I don't mean anything with that. But don't carry any liars' title/slogan to us. For that so called governemnt, after struggled for so many years in my mind, I finally realize that I am a "person" instead of a "controlled" subject. Isn't it a sad thing? Hardly believe we are a 5000 years nation with great civilization. Each time I think about this, I only want to say "**** you, GCD". Please forgive me to be so mean!
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最初由 了然 发布: 老赵的网友,我算服了 瞧这说话的,真有领导的派头 好象我们这些人都是老赵的兵似的 是不是我们只要看你的报纸,也成了你的人了?
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最初由 晴天文化 发布: 回复:回复:回复:回复:期待您的参与和关注! 我的一个朋友在中国青少年基金发展委员会工作,电话号码:010-64035547 网址:http://www.cydf.org.cn/xpjjjs.asp?cc=5&ee=1121 另外一个朋友的父亲在湖南民政厅下属一个民政局工作。办公室电话:0731-4502216 有时间尽管打电话。 重大纠正: 任何一个民政局都只能隶属于所在县市的政府,是所在县市的一个主管民政工作的政府部门。与民政厅的关系只是工作业务上的关系。
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老赵的网友,我算服了
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最初由 了然 发布: 回国最不愿看到的场景: 小孩子、残疾人、老人们风里雪里裸露着伤口趴着乞讨, 想起自己家的老人和小孩,想起加拿大的残疾人, 心里一酸把刚从超市里买来的一大袋食品整包给了他们。 有旁观的朋友并不领情,说我是老外,说这些人没准儿 是职业乞讨,甚至可能是受人控制的,如此等等。 一点简单的同情心, 就被这样复杂化了。 同理。 这位小弟的确是老外,中国的事复杂的很。乞丐中的80%都是职业乞丐,比俺有钱多了。你有同情心很好,但你的朋友也不是铁石心肠的人,只不过比你更多地了解国情而已。
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最初由 zswwzs 发布: 算了,中国有无数的网络警察,我们海外的人说什么,干什么,国安局的老爷们一清二楚.还有,国内的政府官员也都是为了自己和儿女的饭碗,没有几个人象我们的社区领袖们那么关心"祖国".在国内,爱国这个幌子用处不大 道中人说的话,有分量。
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最初由 weilun 发布: 回复:回复:回复:期待您的参与和关注! 你还好意思提希望工程? 在搜索引擎里搜下“希望工程 腐败”后再来发表意见好吗? 另外,你的朋友的父亲是民政局局长,你可以公布他在中国哪个民政局上班?叫什么名字吗? 俺就是民政局局长,俺决不搞腐败,别人腐败是别人的事,别人买官是别人的事。你要问俺是哪个民政局局长,俺告诉你,俺是虚拟市民政局局长,你要问俺的名字,俺叫郑虚拟。你要搜索就搜索去吧,反正是虚拟的,你想搜索都搜索不到的。所以,将来要用脑子说话,不要用嘴巴说话。
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how much you can make? hohohoho....
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最初由 ivyjiang72 发布: 我也感觉是组织者做得不是很好. 我记得去年有人组织一个爱心文艺演出, 我只想买2张票,打电话给组织者咨询一下,对方就说要买可以送票给我, 而且当天晚上忙完事后很晚了还给我送票到家,真的令我很感动. 可这次,我要买7张票, 想打电话咨询一下离家最近哪里有票买,因网上文章中写得几个地方不是太远,就是不太熟悉找起来不方便, 打电话过去听到一个很冷的声音,首先告诉我"忙着呢,你等一会",等了好久才匆匆跟我说哪哪有买的,你自己去买吧.问到小孩的票也是匆匆一说"都一样,都一样"就挂了.我想组织者既然要发动起大家来献爱心, 首先对支持你的人也要献点爱心. 要不然真会让人联想到只为图名了. 这个接电话的人一定以前是在“天虹职介工作”。一般来讲,在那里工作一段时间就变成这样了。
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最初由 IloveGCD 发布: Sorry that I am posting again. I never post so many things. who could please find the email or some contact infomation to the Chinese embassy? For God's sake, I will collect those posts (all of these, no bias) to mail to them. To let them hear what we are talking? if they indeed care in addition to "eat, drink"? As you will understand, I can only use a anonymous email address for the sake of my life. what do you think? I just can not believe there is no good person in the entire government. Mr. Wen Jiao Bao sounds like a good person. 算了,中国有无数的网络警察,我们海外的人说什么,干什么,国安局的老爷们一清二楚.还有,国内的政府官员也都是为了自己和儿女的饭碗,没有几个人象我们的社区领袖们那么关心"祖国".在国内,爱国这个幌子用处不大
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海外侨胞为中国雪灾捐款1.7亿人民币
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最初由 zswwzs 发布: 祖国遭灾了,我们多伦多华人怎么办? 爱国对大多数人只是一种幌子,有的为了出名,有的为了图利. 以爱国的名义要求别人捐款或者干什么,我觉得有点类似于文革的时候以革命的名义强迫别人劳动一样. 很多人把国家当母亲,但是谁的母亲会在儿子进家门前先要花钱抽血,要不然就不让进家门? 谁的母亲会自己守着1万5千亿美圆的外汇不用,而让正在为温饱挣扎的儿子捐款? 谁的母亲会自己一顿饭成千上万,却让买杯咖啡都要考虑一番的儿子捐钱? 中国需要的是有钱的爱国华侨,对于穷人,它象讨厌乞丐一样讨厌你,我们就不要自做多情了. 精辟....说到我心里了。..... 😁
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最初由 IloveGCD 发布: I admit that I am sick and crazy. One last post, then I am ready to be accused by those whoever wants to yell at me. All of us (well, 99% of us) know how everything works in China. No need to say more. I have lived here for more than a decade. And have seen many things with my limited vision. I also have worked/talked/played with many people from different countries. Not every country is richer than China. But I never felt a government treats its people as harsh as Chinese does. As an example, I worked with many Indians. I don't think they are better than us in many aspects. But their government treats them better and IN RETURN they have a better view with their government. It will help their country in long term. What is wrong with us, our sad nation? If there is a leader who REALLY wants to do something for the nation. Could you please come and read all these posts? I beg you, please come. Don't just stay in your cozy office and paint a great image about the country. Don't even fool people by saying Olympics will be held in that place! I don't want to say anything since all the posts here already did. But I want to mention these: 1) in my humble life, I have been tried to be a good person and helped others as much as I can. But I will never help Chinese as long as they carry any government sign/title, etc. 2) it is a vicious cycle, I know. Unfortunately Chinese government will even treat you worse. Anyway, for God's sake. How long will GCD will stay? Someday, when I see there is indeed a positive sign in government, I may change. My opinion is limited, I think I have seen many people but never saw a North Korean. I may become happier if someday I have a Norht Korean friend. If you want to yell, please do so. But if you really want to do something for "our" China, I suggest to forward all these posts to Chinese emabssy. To let them to read once they finish their imporant "eat, drink, degeneration and gamble". Forgot to mention, I used to be a loyal communist party member. 10 years ago, when people complain with the government, I was generally the one who will argue with them. I think what the China goverment's problems are: 1. Narrow minded. 2. Having trouble to understand English, so don't know exactly what's going on with this world. 3. Never try to understand other countries culture/religion. They need to learn, learn and learn.
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最初由 xiexj 发布: 回复:祖国遭灾了,我们多伦多华人怎么办? 有个协会叫华联总会来着,经常代表全体华人到处招摇,这回就由该会代表全体华人捐款好了。
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sorry submitted this again by accident. I don't generally post anything so please forgive me to have these long posts. As an ordinary Chinese, I often feel sad why we have so many negative point of views. I used to firmly deny to my friends that "our" country has something wrong. After reading all these wonderful posts, I just can not contain myself. To do something better, please save your energy and give the money to the poor whenever you have a chance. There are so many people in China are poor and it is not difficult to find some. Another way is to donate to church. Generally church is a good place even you don't have to believe. At least, they are good, honest people.
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最初由 zswwzs 发布: 祖国遭灾了,我们多伦多华人怎么办? 爱国对大多数人只是一种幌子,有的为了出名,有的为了图利. 以爱国的名义要求别人捐款或者干什么,我觉得有点类似于文革的时候以革命的名义强迫别人劳动一样. 很多人把国家当母亲,但是谁的母亲会在儿子进家门前先要花钱抽血,要不然就不让进家门? 谁的母亲会自己守着1万5千亿美圆的外汇不用,而让正在为温饱挣扎的儿子捐款? 谁的母亲会自己一顿饭成千上万,却让买杯咖啡都要考虑一番的儿子捐钱? 中国需要的是有钱的爱国华侨,对于穷人,它象讨厌乞丐一样讨厌你,我们就不要自做多情了. 太精辟了!有同感。
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I admit that I am sick and crazy. One last post, then I am ready to be accused by those whoever wants to yell at me. All of us (well, 99% of us) know how everything works in China. No need to say more. I have lived here for more than a decade. And have seen many things with my limited vision. I also have worked/talked/played with many people from different countries. Not every country is richer than China. But I never felt a government treats its people as harsh as Chinese does. As an example, I worked with many Indians. I don't think they are better than us in many aspects. But their government treats them better and IN RETURN they have a better view with their government. It will help their country in long term. What is wrong with us, our sad nation? If there is a leader who REALLY wants to do something for the nation. Could you please come and read all these posts? I beg you, please come. Don't just stay in your cozy office and paint a great image about the country. Don't even fool people by saying Olympics will be held in that place! I don't want to say anything since all the posts here already did. But I want to mention these: 1) in my humble life, I have been tried to be a good person and helped others as much as I can. But I will never help Chinese as long as they carry any government sign/title, etc. 2) it is a vicious cycle, I know. Unfortunately Chinese government will even treat you worse. Anyway, for God's sake. How long will GCD will stay? Someday, when I see there is indeed a positive sign in government, I may change. My opinion is limited, I think I have seen many people but never saw a North Korean. I may become happier if someday I have a Norht Korean friend. If you want to yell, please do so. But if you really want to do something for "our" China, I suggest to forward all these posts to Chinese emabssy. To let them to read once they finish their imporant "eat, drink, degeneration and gamble". Forgot to mention, I used to be a loyal communist party member. 10 years ago, when people complain with the government, I was generally the one who will argue with them.
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中国需要什么样的人不关我们普通百姓事,作为一个独裁政府来说,当然希望人民越愚昧越好,幸好有了网络,让我们这些愚昧的民众变的稍微聪明了一点,统治者就开始不高兴了? 希望大家看看周老虎的前前后后,国内的老百姓都不那么容易糊弄了,还指望糊弄国外的华人? 你NAIVE, SIMPLE或者装傻,装天真是你的事,还想把别人也当傻瓜,也太抬举自己的智商了! 你举办什么活动,有什么目的是你自己的事,拿爱国当幌子也不违法,爱国这个幌子谁都可以用,毛泽东,孙中山,汪精卫,将介石,还有希特勒什么乱七八糟的人,包括现在国内的小姐,贪官们都拿这个当幌子,不过不要以为自己拿了这个幌子,就站在了所谓的道德制高点上. 举办屁大一点的活动,就拿大使馆的领导当招牌,其实大使馆的一些所谓的领导,你举办个同乡会,邀请她们捧场,她也一定会到,反正她们在加拿大的主要作用就是联系华人. 一些华人社区的所谓活跃人士,如果你是律师,医生,不靠举办活动来达到个人的一些目的,我们会真的尊重那些人,可是,看看我们大陆社区的这些人,哪个不是商人,你敢说自己举办这些所谓的爱国活动不是为了以后更好的出名或者赚钱? 15块钱是不多,但并不是便宜了我们一定就要看,轮子的晚会你给我20我都不看! 举办活动失败,不从自己找原因,却埋怨别人,就凭这点,这个所谓的爱国晚会就不值得看.
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is there anybody come from the Chinese government and REALLY want to take care of its people? look at all the posts!! I don't think there is such leader anymore in current Chinese government. So our voice can not be heard! And indeed we ourselves are just sick. Who care you, who will care what you say. Likely all of us just waste your time here. I love GCD as long as it treats its people like this!!
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实际上买票根本就不是捐款。 是这些义演的演职员们在捐献或义卖, 我们买票的只不过是配合支持一下。 愿意买的就买了,不愿意的完全可以 用脚投票,犯得着骂骂咧咧的吗?
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I can not agree with you guys more. LOOK and FEEL their attitude when you need to deal with them!!!!!!!! 共产党坏透了,要捐也不通过任何中共的政府机构。 共产党坏透了,要捐也不通过任何中共的政府机构。 共产党坏透了,要捐也不通过任何中共的政府机构。 共产党坏透了,要捐也不通过任何中共的政府机构。 共产党坏透了,要捐也不通过任何中共的政府机构。 LOOK and FEEL their attitude when you need to deal with them!!!!!!!! LOOK and FEEL their attitude when you need to deal with them!!!!!!!! LOOK and FEEL their attitude when you need to deal with them!!!!!!!!
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最初由 火花演艺 发布: 中国不需要太聪明的人,因为自古以来,聪明人都是太多并且过剩了。而且,这几千年也没有改变中国的命运。 中国只需要像阿甘这样的人,就像晴天文化所说,简单和热情。 确实,海外捐款在现在,已经没有以前那么重要,中国确实比以前有钱多了。 那捐款究竟有什么意义呢? 无论这场演出的捐款有多少,1万?2万?3万?和灾区的需要相比,实在是太微不足道了。 是不是我们就不需要做什么了呢?什么都不做,是不是透露出一股冷漠?无论有多么堂而皇之的理由。就像灾民在等待救援,你却在一边高谈阔论先铲除贪污再捐款,否则敬请等死,谢谢!再次谢谢所有高智商的国人!每次国难当头,最没用的都是这些人。无论是有多少理由,最终,这些人是什么都没有做。却会是事后第一个跳出来指责别人什么都没有做,义愤填膺的人。 而且,他们还以自己全部的聪明智慧,就像鲁迅先生所说,以最居心叵测来猜度别人。有人出头办事情,自然是居心不良,沽名钓誉,先开一炮再说。这也是华人社区没有人敢从政,政治落后的一个根本原因。有人愿意出来为大家做些事情,应该多些褒扬,这是好事。 有时候,事情真有这么复杂吗?所有人感受都一样的,当你看到同胞需要救援时,你也想做些什么表示一下心意,这不过都是人之常情。于是,有人决定牵头去做这一件事情,吆喝起来,希望得到大家的帮忙,不少人觉得只是义不容辞的事情,就一起加进来,出一份力,希望可以籍此凝聚社区,壮大声势,义演是一个常用的方式,大家就干开了。于是网上展开宣传,希望得到大家支持。 社区只有凝聚起来才能做出事情。而且,义演的无形价值远远超过这区区几万。大家聚在一起,对祖国同胞表示自己的慰问,送去这一份温暖,原来无论相聚多远,炎黄子孙都相互关心,渑
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