He treats you with no respect with no trust.
If you decide to depend on him from now on, you'll put all your happiness in his hand. If he dumps you ten years or twenty years later, by then you really lose everything, family and career. Even if you wins your bet, would you be happy to be a full time mom? You seem to me a very ambitious woman. Would you be happy that all your world is your husband, your children and some tedious housework and all the people you know are your neighbours, your relatives and maybe some old friends from school and other full time moms?
However, you wanna persuit your careers, you have to be tough first. Be independent enough to make your own decisions and to take the consequences and to know that getting married and having a family are not the only two things that can make a woman happy.
I cannot say why I like Canada, even I love my hometown as well.
Believe one thing, life is full of choices, anything you have chosen, it is whole package. It has good and bad, you cannot only take the good part for granted.
You balance, you weight, then to make a decision again.
Each indivdual has own value system. Nobody can help you do the final step. However, if you have already made up your mind, whatever you choose, your true friends will always be happy, be supporting you and be encouraging you.
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Calvin Zhang
2004-06-07 21:59
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The point from Shadz is really impressive. I totally agree.
I also keep on asking my question: Why am I here.
I come from Beijing as well and worked for a multinational company before I came here. I even took part in the MBA exchange program here in Canada. Since I got immigrate visa, I decide to stay here after my graduation this year and try to find a job. But the reality is it is too difficult to find a job here. Now I decide to go back China.
I have simliar feeling as yours. To answer your question, I think the first thing to do is to evaluate what kind of personality you are. If you are kind of person who want to pursue a successful career, you should go back China. If, on the opposite, you would like to enjoy a ordinary life, forget about your past.
Here in Canada, it is difficult to make a money even people get a decent job. $3000 ~4000 already means mid-level for local people, means quite a lot for new immigrants.
I am not a consultant. I give you my suggestion purely on my own opinion. If I were you, I will take the job and take a part time course in UT. Because even you go back China, I doubt you could find the similar job as before. You already lost your potential. And in Canada, for a long run perspective, if you gain a higher degree, it would be good for your future career. You may change to anther higher-pay job in Canada or go back Chine then. The destiny is in your own hand.
Good luck !
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壮志雄心
2004-06-07 21:51
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以上朋友观点都可代表我的观点,我就不多说了,就补充三点,每点大约包括两条,每条又说来话长,不好意思,太累了,再说吧
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lecy
2004-06-07 21:11
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别空想了,和我们一起作幸福的猪吧.
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三角
2004-06-07 21:03
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it is no usefull for us to write a lot of words like everyone wrote in here.
we choose canada,it is just a kind of chose . you can change your mind if you find it is wrong.
don't say any unuseful word in here.
i think you are a good women in china and i believe it is true,
but i cann't understand why you come here.
i know what kind of market is in china.i knew what kind of people made many many money.and i knew they got them by what kind of way.
mabe you came frome beijing,you are lucky than the other who came frome other place which is in china.you donn't know what happened in other chinese place,but i think it is the same with beijing.because all the bad things are frome beijing.do you believe me?if you say no.i think you r younger.
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何氏太极
2004-06-07 20:52
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I just came to Canada one year ago. Before I came here I earned 200000 RMB annually, but I only earned $12/hr in my first job in Canada. After trying and trying, now I got a good job. Compared to living in China, I am getting to like the life in Canada. If you stay here for another couple of year, you will feel much better. There are something you could not get in China.
Some of the argument doesn't make sense at all. A millionnaire won't for sure be happier than a labor worker. The thing is what fits you most. And sometimes, compromise is necessary.
What a pitty that I have no Chinese system installed on this PC. Just try to express myslef by English. Have to say sorry before I express my opinions in advance as I have no such English level as you guys above.
All the focus are mainly concerntrate on you. What a pity in my opinion. Is there any problem above you husband? To me,
1. He has no self-confidence. That's why he asked you to decline job offer even you couple need that.
2. Is he from old school? He is working for PHD here, why the opnion about the sex role are still so old fashion?
3. In my opinion, to love a woman, is not only share what you already have with her. As a man,you have to fight for her, to give her the best you can give along with your love. Even you can't, but you should keep on trying. What if you are a "super woman", then he should support to you for sure. Anyway, you guys are actually 1.
I have been here also for 10 monthes,. Feels like we are here almost at the same time. When I was here, I have the exactly feelings as you. There is no shame. Role change takes time. It pains but will over for sure. What you are thinking over and over here is maximized the wonderful life you enjoy in Beijing. Why not ask yourself the question if that is really so good? or why you left. There must be a reason I think.
To stay or to leave, there is no right answer, also there are so many arguments about this. What suprised me is that there still have so many guys above who are so meaning. Why all the people should have the same opinion as you? For you, I think you have been here for 10 monthes, you must have some basic views about the life here. Why not spend some time again in China, in the city that you are missing so much now. Then you can be more objective to make your choice or decision.
However, the most important thing for you is that you are not here alone. Before every step you move just make sure you have well communicated with your hubby.
Remember, you are not the only one who is experiencing the painful change here. Once you make it, there is another life which is totally different from the one you were in China. Let courage each other and move forward.
My opinions are just for your reference. Hope you can over this period soon. Good luck
take that offer and just be yourself. i am sure you will be satisfied with yourself soon after.
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结婚姻登记
2004-06-07 13:44
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大家,对这个帖子的关注近日有增无减(不过网友就别为细节问题反复争执,咱们都是生活在新时代里的人,民主言论是先进的表现,大家都承认:正是因为存在这不同言论的不同人们,才得以丰富我们的思想见识,不是吗? 我个人觉得发表的任何评论只要是自己真实的想法,真实的所见所闻,就可以理直气壮的讲出来!)
我近日,受到了很多跟帖回复(大家看到文章人气>6000,回复>127),我还收到了无数悄悄话……Actually,我仔细阅读了每一条回复和悄悄话,我觉得旅居加拿大的国人平均素质真是满高的!很多帖子、留言写的一看就出自知识人群(不管你们现在正在从事什么职业……)你们的观点,的确丰富了我的思想,使我成熟长大、使我更加了解加拿大!比如:第6、7、8、9、11、15、22、27、28、30、37、39、44、51、57、59、62、64、72、73、74、80、83、88、91、98、102、103、107(excellent)、108、110(excellent)、120(excellent) 帖……我觉得都格外的好!这些帖的主人如果,愿意继续与我联系,可以发送E-Mail (25M),加国生活之中遇到什么难事,我们网友之间可以互相真诚探讨……
我觉得自己曾经意气风发、曾是一朵铿锵玫瑰,曾经生活躁动却格外有生机(在大城市外企工作过的人,我想你一定能体会!),我喜欢求新求异,新欢Challenge!No challenge,No exciting in life!
现在,我觉得自己很危险,是一朵正在凋零的玫瑰……我来到加拿大发现这是一个想当平庸、缺乏激情创新甚至躁动和真正的竞争的国家(一切建筑都是15年前甚至50年前的样子;估计15年之后这里还基本是现在的样子。而北京不一样,一个地方你几个月没有去就会发现怎么多了几个30多层的新建筑,一夜没出来就发现原本宽阔的街道上突然多了8~9漂亮的新立交桥……)我可能太不适应加拿大的生活,同时太不适应由职业女性到妻子、母亲的转变!
有很多的朋友,建议我平静的生活理念,但是我发现很少有网友讲给我真正成功的典范?事实上,我喜欢更有激情的例子(对于成功的人,我可不嫉妒,榜样的力量是无穷的吗!)
平静的人生观,我不担心,无奈之中也可能会形成;而激情、进取的东西却需要努力去探索!
我要重打锣鼓另开张,百折不挠,好好工作、学习,并且努力协调好自己和家庭的关系(说实在的我觉得,协调自己和丈夫的意见,比自己做决定还难多了)……我要做事业家庭都成功的新女性!我要努力做到,再大的困难我也要努力做到,但愿我的丈夫能够理解我、支持我(事实上宾的成长工作历程和我有很大不同,他非常看重求稳,他关心我爱护我,可他并不理解我……记得有网友说:大多数男人都不喜欢我这样的女人……这是我的可悲,其实我可以保证100%忠于家庭,为家庭做贡献,为何男人却经常容不下我?是假如我要求高、做的好就挑战了他们的自尊心吗?)
宾曾说:在他毕业之前,他不愿意看到我找到工资比他高的工作、他说我没有真正的“技术”,出去找工作也就是管理类工作、“凭
脸孔”去与外国老板混饭吃,这让他“丢人”(所以,我放弃了那份36K的管理工作(虽然这不过是Entry-Level的薪水)尽管老板挺欣赏我的,他面试的时候说我的英文是他手下中国员工里说的最好的…);宾喜欢他40多岁同事的老婆,以她们为标杆:来加拿大8年了从没有找到正式的工作,在家里安心照顾老公和孩子从不抱怨,今年在大儿子初中毕业的年纪,又给家里按照丈夫的要求新生了一个小男孩……这就是男移民、实际收入并不高的知识份子心目中的好老婆!可悲呀,可悲!男人和女人双方的可悲!你说女人肤浅、虚荣,男人就不虚荣吗?40多岁的男人了,在外面混的依然是“小吏巴儿”,回家就心满意足的当当老大、老爹,心理也平衡了!
爱一个男人,应该为他做一切!那么爱一个女人又应该为她做些什么呢?除了她的温饱?不是每个女性都可以用猪栏理想可以满足的!(谁也别告诉我与宾离婚的话,因为宾是个老实男人;老实是家庭稳定之本,我只是想学会协调,好人和好人之间有什么不可以协调的呢?我想我还不是真正聪明的女人………)
leave this fuk country, I am desire to find a wife or girl friend like you but Can't find one. You r smart ,like exiting. but i don't understand why u choose your husband. He should be good and rich in 60's-70's in baby boom. It could be deep in your heart u are the one who want that life but u don't know.
Think about yourself what u want to be!!! If u don't like present at all leave here go to states and your husband. U don't match at all!!
人在异乡:来加10个月了 越待越苦闷……