413渥京集会：集体乘巴士部分地址有变

不得不承认，我们的组织能力很有限，英文水平也较差，毕竟没什么这方面的经验。我想会在实践中逐步提高的。 我们才刚刚开始。 中国人中很难得有你这样勇于检讨自我的人,我为我的言论中过火的言论向你道歉. 我虽然不赞成你们为中共背书似的真相宣传,但你们还是提供了华人展示团结和力量 的平台,这是在国内的人们所无法享受到的. 希望下次活动时,不要几人关在餐桌前冥思苦想,而应集思广益.这样才能达到更好的效果.毕竟组织一次活动很不容易. 再次为我的过火言论向你们道歉.

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实在没法亲身参与，天大的遗憾。在这里仅代表全家对此次集会表达最中心的祝福，期盼能顺利安全的完成这次艰巨的任务。也希望大家给中国人争气，注意安全，礼数，急维护现场的秩序和卫生。多谢大家了。

最初由 每天都是中国人 发布： 中国人就是这样被侮辱的吗？ 兄弟姐妹们，我们还有脸做中国人吗？ http://www.chinasmile.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2311436#post2311436 我都快气疯了 Without doubt, this silly Jack Cafferty should be prosecuted and pay a dear price for the harm he has done to all Chinese people.

最初由 waterring 发布： 组委会的水平之高,在他们的口号中一览无余了. 上次集会不参加,这次又凑热闹,爱国是虚,出名是实.其实他们的心思并不在认真做好集会上,而是想着如何哗众取宠上.明天一定又是一个成功的集会,但这会给我们华人带来什么真正的利益呢?会让世界人看到一个怎样的中国呢? Listen to our voice 空话 Do you really know Tibet上政治课,就是对国人也得讲上起码三个星期. Say NO to RIOTS, Stop Media Distortion! 还可以,但针对性差. Only One China in the World 什么猪脑,所有的人都是认为只要一个中国. We Love Tibet, We Love China T与C居然并列,且C还得摆在T的后面.到底是一国还是两国.没学过逻辑中的从属和并列. Don't Politicize the Olympics 人家没有P,是你自己要P,所以你才会因奥运而组织政治游行. 第七条与此相同. 第八第鼓动性最强,可是有强人所难的意味,GO谁发钱啊? We are Proud of 2008 Beijing Summer Olympics 太长,会喊得断气的 We are Proud of 2010 Vancouver Winter Olympics 同理可证 Stop Violence to Olympics Torch Relay! 不如PEACE OLYMPICE　ＴＯＲＣＨ 短而精 Study The History Not Media. 有人会去学吗？ 口号空洞，目的不是． 唉，难道华的素质就这么高，真为这些人汗颜. 不得不承认，我们的组织能力很有限，英文水平也较差，毕竟没什么这方面的经验。我想会在实践中逐步提高的。 我们才刚刚开始。。。

最初由 Hellbird 发布： 快讯：渥太华之行受阻 组委会紧急通知 这家租车公司是美国公司，我们以后要集体抵制这间公司！ D Ding!

最初由 waterring 发布： Jack Cafferty ?°Well, I don't know if China is any different, but our relationship with China is certainly different. We're in hawk to the Chinese up to our eyeballs because of the war in Iraq, for one thing. They're holding hundreds of billions of dollars worth of our paper. We also are running hundred of billions of dollars worth of trade deficits with them, as we continue to import their junk with the lead paint on them and the poisoned pet food and export, you know, jobs to places where you can pay workers a dollar a month to turn out the stuff that we're buying from Wal- Mart. So I think our relationship with China has certainly changed. I think they're basically the same bunch of goons and thugs they've been for the last 50 years. 不是让他辞职,而应该运用法律程序告倒他,让他尝尝种族歧视的滋味. I disagree with you on almost all of your posts. But I have to say, I agree with you on this one.

Very good point! 最初由 米条 发布： 转个帖子,反藏独制胜策 转自mitbbs,不知道之前有没有人帖过,个人认为非常有道理 反藏独制胜策 (1): 师出有名, 抗议暴力 Everyone please read this paragraph carefully. For now I think everyone understood that PROTESTING is much more powerful than SUPPORTING something, if you want voice out. We can not protest TD. It just sounds odd for us to protest somebody else searching independence, though 1.4 billion people are against their position. Carefully read ZD’s position … there are not protesting One China. They are protesting Human Rights in Tibet (师出有名), and under this flag they are promoting 藏独. So to protest those ZDs, we should protest their violence against Olympics. Our banner should be: Stop Violence Against Olympics. No Violence Against Olympics. Now let see why this is the winning strategy. 1. 抗议暴力, 师出有名, Anti-violence is a appropriate and powerful theme for protesting. We can take this banner to anywhere. We can protest ZD (their HQ, their assembly, their own protesting events) for their violence against Olympics, we can protest Da Lai himself wherever he shows up, and demand him to stop violence . We can even protest in front of western governments and demand them to use their influence to help stop violence. 抗议暴力 is just the right way to protest. 2. 上兵伐谋, 给藏独的阴谋诡计当头一棒 I think by now everyone is clear with 藏独的阴谋诡计: escalate violence as torch goes, create Beijing Olympic crisis, and promote their ZD agenda. They carefully planned a showdown at SF, only being negated by quick reaction from Chinese American and Chinese in US. But they will re-group and care out their 阴谋诡计. And risk is still there … we don’t have any big Chinese community in any of the cities/countries to protect the torch. By protesting violence, we expose their conspiracy, and preempt their move. And as long as we can hold back their violence, there is not much they can do in short term. And .. 3. Create a good forum to let the world hear our voice. Just like ZD promote their agenda through their human right protests, we can promote our believes through protest against violence, Tibet will always be part of China, etc. Now it’s voice of millions of overseas Chinese versus thousands of ZD. I will elaborate this in the second part of the 反藏独制胜 策: 反客为主, 辩胜藏独

最初由 ebico 发布： 回复：不要再指望西方媒体会真实转递我们的心声！ 完全同意!说的没错. 加拿大的英文媒体不会报什么真实消息的, 大家带好照相机, 摄像设备.至少可以发上youtube 这里不是中国

最初由 hppx 发布： 不要再指望西方媒体会真实转递我们的心声！ 他们没有这个胆！ 他们重视恶意歪曲华人及中华民主的形象！估计这次如果报道，也会挖空心思找漏洞，剪接编辑来曲解民意！所以不要再相信这些阴谋政治家所掌控的媒体，那时他们用来对世界人们的洗脑工具。我们要做的如何能有效地揭露它，纠正它！ 所以举起你的相机，摄像机，照/摄下你所看到的一切，尤其是但一些不法分子混进人民内部，企图摸黑我们的时候！一定要记录下证据！以便揭发他们虚伪的所谓的西方民主，人权。 我们需要一个自发的民间组织，集结人才，揭露真相！为中国，为加拿大，更为全世界！我们需要干净，真实，和平的世界！ 完全同意!说的没错. 加拿大的英文媒体不会报什么真实消息的, 大家带好照相机, 摄像设备.至少可以发上youtube

组委会的水平之高,在他们的口号中一览无余了. 上次集会不参加,这次又凑热闹,爱国是虚,出名是实.其实他们的心思并不在认真做好集会上,而是想着如何哗众取宠上.明天一定又是一个成功的集会,但这会给我们华人带来什么真正的利益呢?会让世界人看到一个怎样的中国呢? Listen to our voice 空话 Do you really know Tibet上政治课,就是对国人也得讲上起码三个星期. Say NO to RIOTS, Stop Media Distortion! 还可以,但针对性差. Only One China in the World 什么猪脑,所有的人都是认为只要一个中国. We Love Tibet, We Love China T与C居然并列,且C还得摆在T的后面.到底是一国还是两国.没学过逻辑中的从属和并列. Don't Politicize the Olympics 人家没有P,是你自己要P,所以你才会因奥运而组织政治游行. 第七条与此相同. 第八第鼓动性最强,可是有强人所难的意味,GO谁发钱啊? We are Proud of 2008 Beijing Summer Olympics 太长,会喊得断气的 We are Proud of 2010 Vancouver Winter Olympics 同理可证 Stop Violence to Olympics Torch Relay! 不如PEACE OLYMPICE　ＴＯＲＣＨ 短而精 Study The History Not Media. 有人会去学吗？ 口号空洞，目的不是． 唉，难道华的素质就这么高，真为这些人汗颜.

1. Listen to our voice Then What is your voice, what is the message? Say the message instead of saying "listen to our voice" which amounts to not saying anything. 2. Do you really know Tibet Of course they think they know enough to be critical of China. I would recommend saying something like Tibet is freer than ever today. or "Tibet was a feudal slavery system in Dalai's days", In short, give direct statements and examples and that would be more effective. 3. Say NO to RIOTS, Stop Media Distortion! good stuff 4. Only One China in the World Tibetans are not say there are two china's. Tibetans will say "yes, of course, there is one china and there is one tibet". We are not being clear here. 5. We Love Tibet, We Love China Why do you put Tibet along side China, as if we admit that it is a country with the same status as China. It would probably be better to say "We love Tibet, an inseparable part of China." 6. Don't Politicize the Olympics 7. Let Politics Away from Olympics 8. Go 2008 Beijing Olympics Go! 9. We are Proud of 2008 Beijing Summer Olympics 10. We are Proud of 2010 Vancouver Winter Olympics 11. Stop Violence to Olympics Torch Relay! 12. Study The History Not Media.

最初由 气袋 发布： 把汽油钱捐给希望工程吧! 明天很多人要去OTTAWA抗议, 你们有这个激情和冲动吗? 我觉得办奥运本来只是锦上添花的事. 一个"鸟巢"体育场就花了三十五个亿,全部投资几百个亿,多少百姓一年粮?多少失学孩子的一生希望?都花到这件面子工程上去了. 当中又肥了多少贪官污吏的私囊?反正,我觉得没必要为这件并不是生死攸关大灾大难的事情去捶胸顿足,没必要看得太严重.把这一百块的汽油钱省下来寄给希望工程切切实实地做件善事好了! 若象99年美国炸了中国大使馆的事, 那才是应该表示一下愤怒的事情. What about this???????????????????????????????? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=584D5fHB2H4 Did you hear the mock?????? The laugh????? Watch, listen and think.... Why is XiZang all of suddenly so worthy for western media to make up lies???????????????????????? Human right? NO!!!! Freedom???? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! World history honestly shows.... they do not care a bit. But they know people care, including their own people… So they are willing to take the risk to put us down once for all!!!! Why?????? China is shaking the core of western's believe—the balance of the world is being broken. A different voice, CHINA, is rising up higher and higher. And then more voice from more countries is being heard, including those that used to under them. Oh, man, they are twisted with jealousness, anger, and scare now!!!!! What's the result??? Let’s all take a time and THINK!!! UK played game with us. Then German... Then France and USA... Those are not free games. Each every play cost us hundred of billions. And it’s far from the worst part yet, since the circle will keep on going and going until we are exhausted and being wiped out... And the world will return to the world they love... We are buying time to grow mature and strong!!!!!!!! That is why we need our voice to be heard more than ever before!!!!!! We are not goons and thugs!!!!!!! We are not butchers and monsters (Maclean’s front page)!!!!! We are not the threat to the world!!!!! Let the world know the truth.... We want peace, not savage games!!!!!!! Leave our problem to ourselves!!!!! Say no to separations!!!!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 东部时间四月九日晚6点，CNN主持人Jack Cafferty 在 Wolf Blitzer 主持的 “The Situation Room” 中发表了侮辱全体中国人的无耻言论。他说“他们（中国人）基本 上还是五十年来的那群恶棍和暴徒。”（见附录） 附录：CNN 主持人Jack Cafferty 在四月九日发表的辱华言论行动全文： http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=584D5fHB2H4 Jack Cafferty “Well, I don't know if China is any different, but our relationship with China is certainly different. We're in hawk to the Chinese up to our eyeballs because of the war in Iraq, for one thing. They're holding hundreds of billions of dollars worth of our paper. We also are running hundred of billions of dollars worth of trade deficits with them, as we continue to import their junk with the lead paint on them and the poisoned pet food and export, you know, jobs to places where you can pay workers a dollar a month to turn out the stuff that we're buying from Wal- Mart. So I think our relationship with China has certainly changed. I think they're basically the same bunch of goons and thugs they've been for the last 50 years.”

最初由 dululu 发布： 回复：回复：都是骗人的 您当初为十么来加拿大的? 来加拿大就是来对付你们这类走狗的！ 😁

希望同胞们能够至少给所在选区的国会议员和省议会议员打至少一次电话，告诉他们西藏到底发生了什么和我们的看法及对某些媒体和政客歪曲事实的报导的愤怒。西藏的暴乱不是要求民主而是破坏民主。西藏所发生的暴乱，放在美国、英国、加拿大的任何一个角落，都是彻头彻尾的恐怖活动。大家一定要做！

最初由 80 % 发布： 回复：回复：回复：游行是为我们自己！！！ 现在有西藏事件，以后又可以有个是么其它事件，反正都可以怪 现实生活中比别人强, 那叫实力 嘴上比别人强, 那叫吹牛B 😁 不管用手还是动嘴，最后的胜利属于我们！

最初由 如影随风 发布： 回复：回复：游行是为我们自己！！！ 现在有西藏事件，以后又可以有个是么其它事件，反正都可以怪 什么叫闹腾？ 没有抗争，人头税会平反吗？ 政府会道歉吗？ 要知道只有中国人才有人头税！！！！！ 只要不想类似人头税的事件重演，只有抗争！！ 现实生活中比别人强, 那叫实力 嘴上比别人强, 那叫吹牛B 😁

最初由 80 % 发布： 回复：游行是为我们自己！！！ 现在有西藏事件，以后又可以有个是么其它事件，反正都可以怪 中国人不闹腾, 白人都忘了骄傲了, 这下可好, 全想起来了 还是等真正强大了再得瑟吧! 只有实力才能作证. 什么叫闹腾？ 没有抗争，人头税会平反吗？ 政府会道歉吗？ 要知道只有中国人才有人头税！！！！！ 只要不想类似人头税的事件重演，只有抗争！！

最初由 如影随风 发布： 游行是为我们自己！！！ 现在有西藏事件，以后又可以有个是么其它事件，反正都可以怪 罪我们华人。 我们就是要加拿大政府看一看，现在的华人不是过去，不是人头税的时代，不可以任人摆布！！！！ 我们的祖国是我们海外华人的坚强后盾！！！！！！！！！！！ 我们的抗争是一定有回报的！！！ 中国人不闹腾, 白人都忘了骄傲了, 这下可好, 全想起来了 还是等真正强大了再得瑟吧! 只有实力才能作证.

最初由 x0i0n 发布： 最初由发布 主要是游行的主题不得要领.老是跳不出西藏真相,这一目前,谁也说不清的话题.而且所用的材料大多也是中共宣布中的材料,很难让大众接受. 所以看似追求公正,实则替中共背书.看似气势汹汹,实则让人耻笑. 要想成功,组织者就应顺应历史和世界的潮流,将"反对暴力,倡导和平;喜迎奥运,反对藏独"做为主题.这样既能迎得大众的支持,也能团结更多的华人. "反对暴力,倡导和平;喜迎奥运,清除藏独" 反对暴力,倡导和平;喜迎奥运,反对藏独" 罪我们华人。 我们就是要加拿大政府看一看，现在的华人不是过去，不是人头税的时代，不可以任人摆布！！！！ 什么叫“所以看似追求公正,实则替中共背书“？ 什么叫“看似气势汹汹,实则让人耻笑.“？ 我们的祖国是我们海外华人的坚强后盾！！！！！！！！！！！ 我们的抗争是一定有回报的！！！

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeKTjOxk_dE

最初由 dululu 发布： 回复：回复：都是骗人的 您当初为十么来加拿大的? 还不是穷 😁

Who is the color bar? Jack Cafferty 要一个人拿着话筒喊第一句,其他人一齐喊第二句.这样才有声势.

最初由 waterring 发布： Jack Cafferty ?°Well, I don't know if China is any different, but our relationship with China is certainly different. We're in hawk to the Chinese up to our eyeballs because of the war in Iraq, for one thing. They're holding hundreds of billions of dollars worth of our paper. We also are running hundred of billions of dollars worth of trade deficits with them, as we continue to import their junk with the lead paint on them and the poisoned pet food and export, you know, jobs to places where you can pay workers a dollar a month to turn out the stuff that we're buying from Wal- Mart. So I think our relationship with China has certainly changed. I think they're basically the same bunch of goons and thugs they've been for the last 50 years. 不是让他辞职,而应该运用法律程序告倒他,让他尝尝种族歧视的滋味. 歧视谁了? 中文网都说中华民族是世界上最优秀的民族, 没见过劣等民族歧视优秀民族的.

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Jack Cafferty ?°Well, I don't know if China is any different, but our relationship with China is certainly different. We're in hawk to the Chinese up to our eyeballs because of the war in Iraq, for one thing. They're holding hundreds of billions of dollars worth of our paper. We also are running hundred of billions of dollars worth of trade deficits with them, as we continue to import their junk with the lead paint on them and the poisoned pet food and export, you know, jobs to places where you can pay workers a dollar a month to turn out the stuff that we're buying from Wal- Mart. So I think our relationship with China has certainly changed. I think they're basically the same bunch of goons and thugs they've been for the last 50 years. 不是让他辞职,而应该运用法律程序告倒他,让他尝尝种族歧视的滋味.

Jack Cafferty ?°Well, I don't know if China is any different, but our relationship with China is certainly different. We're in hawk to the Chinese up to our eyeballs because of the war in Iraq, for one thing. They're holding hundreds of billions of dollars worth of our paper. We also are running hundred of billions of dollars worth of trade deficits with them, as we continue to import their junk with the lead paint on them and the poisoned pet food and export, you know, jobs to places where you can pay workers a dollar a month to turn out the stuff that we're buying from Wal- Mart. So I think our relationship with China has certainly changed. I think they're basically the same bunch of goons and thugs they've been for the last 50 years.?± ????????????????×???????????,?????????????á??????????.