最初由 辣翻天 发布：
当婊子,树牌坊
王会长没兴趣参加爱国运动也就算了,人各有志,不能勉强.
但与高级贪官们密切往来,甚至出面邀请已故的宋平顺主席访加,
关心和支援祖国建设,这该如何解释? 一句话:当婊子,树牌坊.
It is shame to be the leader of this association!
最初由 hshi2 发布：
why? this is called "politics". I am not denying the right of demonstration. it is good system which western countries created. but I don't think it is good for China now at least. China will give the right of demostration to its people eventually. But it is too early to practise it now. You are Chinese, you are supposed to know better than those foreigners.
Do you think that human right situation has been improved now compared with 20 years in China? If you don't see it, you are blind. Please give sometime to China. Communists will be converted eventually. Be patient.
I don't know if you invest in stock or not. Nobody will dump a raising stock until it reaches it peak.
BUT I THINK 台湾 MUCH BETTER THAN CHINA
最初由 waterring 发布：
it doesn't matter. do you know why the voice from western media (anti-china) keeps going down last few days? they don't broadcast, does not mean they don't care. they watch closely about what is happening on the street. Like you and me.
no!time is go ,the hot had passed.They didn't care it,because it have important thing to report.your point is only love yourself,do you understand?
haha....reponse to your "they have important thing to report". please read:
外交部邀两次集会组织者“黑白色” 谈对西藏问题看法
以组织两次大型集会而出名的19岁中国留学生“黑白色” （真名郑翰）日前接到加拿大外交部官员从渥太华打来电话，邀他见面座谈，以便政府进一步了解加国华人对西藏问题的看法。据郑翰同学转述致电官员的话说，该外交部官员表示，联邦政府不想只听中国政府的宣传，或是主流媒体的声音，也想听听加国华人对西藏问题的想法。
郑翰说，见面时间定在本周四，地点在多伦多，郑翰曾经询问周四会面是否允许传媒采访时，对方一口回绝，回话的官员称，座谈将是闭门谈话，有关谈话资料将写成报告，然后呈交外交部长及副部长，以便他们在评论西藏问题时作为参考。此外，据郑翰自己介绍，4.13集会活动的消息通过网络传开后，他最近接到美国密西根州的电话，那里的华人也要举行类似行动，想从多伦多借用中国国旗，并希望这边能派人声援。郑翰表示，具体细节仍在商讨之中。
it doesn't matter. do you know why the voice from western media (anti-china) keeps going down last few days? they don't broadcast, does not mean they don't care. they watch closely about what is happening on the street. Like you and me.
no!time is go ,the hot had passed.They didn't care it,because it have important thing to report.your point is only love yourself,do you understand?
最初由 hshi2 发布：
too subjective.
do you think that China is a real communist country now?
you are wrong. I put it this way, it is a communist party controlled capitalism (if not, they are working toward this direction at least). Even themselves don't know how to explain the core objective of their own party -- so they gave a new slogan recently -- scientific view of developement. what does that mean? You tell me. This is exactly what I meant -- commumists will be tranformed by themselves graduately.
Anyway, I love China. hope China tranforms itself smoothly, people get more money, education level of regular people (farmers especially) get boosted, then democraicy will come eventually. Be patient, remember what I said today..
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东方华
2008-04-15 18:44
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最初由 hshi2 发布：
too subjective.
Would you please say something different from the Communist party’s idea? We have learned it almost 60 years.
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一老狼
2008-04-15 18:29
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最初由 East Sun 发布：
I do not think that China has changed anything in it’s political system, except, of course, invest money to help American invading Iraq.
too subjective.
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东方华
2008-04-15 17:15
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最初由 hshi2 发布：
why? this is called "politics". I am not denying the right of demonstration. it is good system which western countries created. but I don't think it is good for China now at least. China will give the right of demostration to its people eventually. But it is too early to practise it now. You are Chinese, you are supposed to know better than those foreigners.
Do you think that human right situation has been improved now compared with 20 years in China? If you don't see it, you are blind. Please give sometime to China. Communists will be converted eventually. Be patient.
I don't know if you invest in stock or not. Nobody will dump a raising stock until it reaches it peak.
I do not think that China has changed anything in it’s political system, except, of course, invest money to help American invading Iraq.
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一老狼
2008-04-15 16:50
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最初由 East Sun 发布：
Watch the following first, and then, answer the question.
Why all of Chinese, even they are pro-China, do not have a right or opportunity to demonstrate in mainland China?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DZfZ6O5bYQ
why? this is called "politics". I am not denying the right of demonstration. it is good system which western countries created. but I don't think it is good for China now at least. China will give the right of demostration to its people eventually. But it is too early to practise it now. You are Chinese, you are supposed to know better than those foreigners.
Do you think that human right situation has been improved now compared with 20 years in China? If you don't see it, you are blind. Please give sometime to China. Communists will be converted eventually. Be patient.
I don't know if you invest in stock or not. Nobody will dump a raising stock until it reaches it peak.
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东方华
2008-04-15 16:19
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最初由 hshi2 发布：
I believe 贪官老大 East Sun 退出 must have been among those red guards, now they are pretending innocent.
Watch the following first, and then, answer the question.
Why all of Chinese, even they are pro-China, do not have a right or opportunity to demonstrate in mainland China?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DZfZ6O5bYQ
最初由 hshi2 发布：
another good one (hope 贪官老大 East Sun 退出 read english):
http://www.countercurrents.org/lin150408.htm
another one by Jean-Luc Mélanchon, Socialist senator in France
http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/articleview/6749/1/329/
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一老狼
2008-04-15 13:58
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最初由 hshi2 发布：
love to see more this kind of article, it is fair to everybody:
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/04/15/opinion/edwu.php
another good one (hope 贪官老大 East Sun 退出 read english):
http://www.countercurrents.org/lin150408.htm
413集会花絮：标语“中国大胆往前走”