最初由 hezhegaigua 发布:
About natinal flag
1 People showed intendedly a lot of Chinese flags and little Canadian flags there. Think about it: if some people showed same number of American or Canadian flags on TianAnMen square. The governments and people do care about this.
2 Tibetian showed some Tibetian flags in Canada is same as Nepalese showed some Nepalese flags in China. The governments and people don't care about this.
1. 这种情况发生的可能性不大,你首先要在中国找几千人到天安门广场打星条旗和枫叶旗,不那么容易,除非花钱。对这种事情进行假设是不恰当的,政府和人民的反应也不是你可以臆测的。
2. 尼泊尔旗和西藏旗没有可比性,一个是国旗,一个是流亡组织旗。
下面给你发个照片,星条旗和枫叶旗都全了,就是少了点儿。 😁
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marilyn2000
2008-04-29 11:14
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Correction:
Can you deny the distortion and bias in media, and the violence used by Tibetan separatists?
What's more, despite whether Chinse government back up the assembly or not. Nobody was forced to do it. They went to assembly based on their conscience and sense of justice.
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marilyn2000
2008-04-29 11:04
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Actually we don't need to get entangled in such nonsense questions like who is supporting protesters, where did the flags come from, why people didn't use Canadian flags.
Chinese immigrants in Canada love both Canada and China. The fact that they didn't use Canadian flags doesn't mean they don't love Canada. They settled in Canada and raise their children here. They hope Canada would be better and better. Now they see sth. happened here is stopping Canada from developing. They don't want Canada to be against China without any reasonalbe causes. They are so disappointed with Harper's comments and policy towards China. They can't stand the distortion in media that has been happening for long time. In this Olympic torch event, western media had attacked all 1.3 billion Chinese. The thing is that the western media accused Chinese for sth. that they didn't do. And the media has been trying to spread hatred towards Chinese and China. We Canadian Chinese just feel threatened and very upset about the lies from media.
The west advocates equality. Since Tibetan protesters can protest and use only their flags without any criticism, why can't Chinese do the same thing ? Where is the equality?
Finally, despite how Chinese protest, can you deny that there was no media distortion and bias, and there was no violence used by Tibetan separatists in recent events? Nobody can deny it. And that's why we Chinese protest for.
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justpaste
2008-04-28 23:35
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最初由 marilyn2000 发布:
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The purpose of the assembly is to show our support for Olympics in China and also show our anger towards those media, rioters and some politicians who attacked the whole country of China and all Chinese by distortion, violence and lies.
We don't need to use Canadian flags. It's off the track. Did Tibet separatists use Canadian flags while they were protesting? People who asked this question have other purpose.
I don't care about what your purposes are. There are things I agree with you, some I don't agree. I just think what Xia He said is not logical. This will cause lots of problem, such as TVO questioned if this assembly was backed by the CCP government. This is a operational level issue, if you don't handle it diplomatically, it's very easy to get attacked. The way Xia He replied to TVO was not diplomatic as well - Not, we are not backed by the CCP government. Then what? Do you think who will get convienced? Even I started to think about - hm, there is something doubtable.
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hezhegaigua
2008-04-28 23:14
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1 People showed intendedly a lot of Chinese flags and little Canadian flags there. Think about it: if some people showed same number of American or Canadian flags on TianAnMen square. The governments and people do care about this.
2 Tibetian showed some Tibetian flags in Canada is same as Nepalese showed some Nepalese flags in China. The governments and people don't care about this.
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marilyn2000
2008-04-28 22:29
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最初由 justpaste 发布:
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When people asked Xia He why there were less Canadian flags than 5 red star flags on 413, he said it's hard to get Canadian flags in Canada.
People don't believe that, so they questioned if they get the 5 red star flags from other channels like Chinese government. And then Xia He said no, we never got them from this channel.
Till now, they still didn't tell people where they get these flags. Is 5 star red flags easies to get than Canadian flags in Canada?
Use your logic thinking.
The purpose of the assembly is to show our support for Olympics in China and also show our anger towards those media, rioters and some politicians who attacked the whole country of China and all Chinese by distortion, violence and lies.
We don't need to use Canadian flags. It's off the track. Did Tibet separatists use Canadian flags while they were protesting? People who asked this question have other purpose.
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justpaste
2008-04-28 22:07
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最初由 Orientspear 发布:
你更相信CNN,所以你把CNN侮辱华人的话挂在口边。不知你皮肤漂白没有?
I think CNN just 侮辱 those 华人 like your pa which lives on sucking normal Chinese people's blood.
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WTTO
2008-04-28 19:33
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最初由 justpaste 发布:
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When people asked Xia He why there were less Canadian flags than 5 red star flags on 413, he said it's hard to get Canadian flags in Canada.
People don't believe that, so they questioned if they get the 5 red star flags from other channels like Chinese government. And then Xia He said no, we never got them from this channel.
Till now, they still didn't tell people where they get these flags. Is 5 star red flags easies to get than Canadian flags in Canada?
Use your logic thinking.
1. 看不出五星红旗和枫叶旗谁多和我的帖子有什么关系。我是说没有镰刀斧头旗。
2. 难道五星红旗和游行的主题不符吗?难道这样一个游行的主题要规定五星红旗和枫叶旗的比例吗?几个星期前阿尔巴尼亚裔人游行支持科索沃独立,你看到多少双头鹰旗,看到多少枫叶旗?
3. 先看看发难的 Kwon 还说了什么:中国政府要在6-8月把北京的外国留学生赶出中国。这种话都能在摄像机面前说出来的人,如果我是 Alex, 一定要他当场澄清并确认。
4. 国旗的来历,问组委会好了,既然接受捐款,就应该有款项支出说明,被谁捐了国旗,也可以说出来,如果来自中领使馆,问题应该问中领使馆,不应问游行的人,游行的可接受任何人的捐助,只要他们认为愿意。藏独没有基金会支持吗?民运没有基金会支持吗?Till now, 有谁去问了吗?
5. 以后尽量用中文,即使条件限制,用了英文,也要用你的 logical thinking, 不要用你的 logic thinking, 否则人们会认为你没有 logical thinking. 别管是 logical, 还是 logic, 反正我看你是没有 logical thinking. 😁
最初由 云雨剑 发布:
你在拿CNN跟CCTV相提并论就是抽自己的耳光。
you are saying nothing. won't convience any mature people, because there is no logic
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justpaste
2008-04-27 23:51
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最初由 WTTO 发布:
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您 Pro John Tory, 当然是“掺乎这边的事”,华人近期的集会同样是“掺乎这边的事”。日前外交部要约谈郑翰,明确说明就是要听一听中国政府和本地主流媒体以外的声音,写出报告供政府参考,难道您不觉得这是掺乎了这边的事?
台湾香港移民有自己的行事方式,您可以估计, 我不愿随意揣测,况且有报道去渥太华集会的有来自多伦多的香港移民。
您说这些集会是替共产党背书,在下不敢苟同。集会上的旗子是五星红旗,枫叶旗和五环旗,您看到镰刀斧头旗了吗?集会的主题是反对西方媒体的偏颇报道和支持奥运,连西媒都只是说 Pro China 怎么在您的眼里就成了替共产党背书呢?说句得罪的话:这是政治挂帅,意识形态至上,加上冷战思维。要知道,今天的中国不是40年前的中国,今天的共产党也不是40年前的共产党了,不要共产党支持的我们就反对。共产党要解决13亿人的吃饭问题,要提高粮食产量和进口量,难道您就要另辟蹊径,让老百姓都去练功,天天辟谷,从减少粮食消耗量下手?
还是那句话:您尽管支持保守党,尽管腻味华人集会,但没有人能够阻止这种集会,没有人能够代表华人指责这种集会会损害本地华人的利益。
When people asked Xia He why there were less Canadian flags than 5 red star flags on 413, he said it's hard to get Canadian flags in Canada.
People don't believe that, so they questioned if they get the 5 red star flags from other channels like Chinese government. And then Xia He said no, we never got them from this channel.
Till now, they still didn't tell people where they get these flags. Is 5 star red flags easies to get than Canadian flags in Canada?
Use your logic thinking.
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2008-04-27 23:46
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最初由 justpaste 发布:
Hey man, I trust CNN more than CCTV.
你在拿CNN跟CCTV相提并论就是抽自己的耳光。
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justpaste
2008-04-27 23:38
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最初由 Orientspear 发布:
Don't be like more CNN.
Hey man, I trust CNN more than CCTV.
最初由 李大水 发布:
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呵呵,还记得那碴儿呢?
其实我主张我们更应该多掺乎这边的事.我估计这也是为什么香港,台湾移民很少参加这类集会的原因.而他们做的一些事情,多数是从中国人(或华人)的角度,而不是中国政府的角度.比如向慰安妇道歉,为排华法道歉等,确实不是这些提共产党背书的集会所能比的.
您 Pro John Tory, 当然是“掺乎这边的事”,华人近期的集会同样是“掺乎这边的事”。日前外交部要约谈郑翰,明确说明就是要听一听中国政府和本地主流媒体以外的声音,写出报告供政府参考,难道您不觉得这是掺乎了这边的事?
台湾香港移民有自己的行事方式,您可以估计, 我不愿随意揣测,况且有报道去渥太华集会的有来自多伦多的香港移民。
您说这些集会是替共产党背书,在下不敢苟同。集会上的旗子是五星红旗,枫叶旗和五环旗,您看到镰刀斧头旗了吗?集会的主题是反对西方媒体的偏颇报道和支持奥运,连西媒都只是说 Pro China 怎么在您的眼里就成了替共产党背书呢?说句得罪的话:这是政治挂帅,意识形态至上,加上冷战思维。要知道,今天的中国不是40年前的中国,今天的共产党也不是40年前的共产党了,不要共产党支持的我们就反对。共产党要解决13亿人的吃饭问题,要提高粮食产量和进口量,难道您就要另辟蹊径,让老百姓都去练功,天天辟谷,从减少粮食消耗量下手?
还是那句话:您尽管支持保守党,尽管腻味华人集会,但没有人能够阻止这种集会,没有人能够代表华人指责这种集会会损害本地华人的利益。
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