多市10月二手房价跌13%销量跌35%

We are paying for our past sins O'Neil makes those types of comments so that the 25,000 plus members of the Toronto Real Estate Board do not all quit the business at once. We all know better, but she says what she has to say. The market has been totally out of control for the past several years. Buyers would pay practically any price if they wanted a particular house. Now things are different and those who bought a home at any price are forced to face the music. Sanity will return, and every indication is that it won't be any time soon. When go all go on "drunken sailor's binge", we end up paying for it soon or later. Posted By JohnToro at 6:45 PM Thursday, November 20 2008 Agree Disagree Offensive Irresponsible and Unprofessional If you look at the TREB's website where they post their bi-monthly press releases you will see TREB has been spinning tales all year long. Blaming everything from snow falls to now CNN. I think it's very unfortunate that an organization with such access to market resources and their own stats would resort to this. Posted By EastResident at 5:47 PM Thursday, November 20 2008 Agree Disagree Offensive Dangerous Market All the economic fundamentals are sound? No way! This is what you get when you put Sarah Palin in charge. The economic is too weak and volatile to make a commitment as big as purchasing a home. Even if one has a stable job, the chance of buying a home today; putting down a reasonable down payment; and be under the water in the very near future is just too great. Bizarre how O'Neill mentioned "I don't think people will see HUGE declines from here in their house prices…” Given the steady increase inventory of unsold homes combined with sharp decline of number of homes sold; in addition the increase time homes are remaining on the market (41 days now versus 31 days in 2007), one must wonder, instead of relying on the actual data that, ironically comes from her own press release, what O'Neill is basing her theory on. But I think O'Neill was very careful when she used the word “huge”. Essentially she is saying when the prices decrease; it is just simply a decrease – not a “huge” one. Posted By gomonova at 3:54 PM Thursday, November 20 2008 Agree Disagree Offensive Positive outlook I personaly agree with O'Neil , people will buy and numbers will go back .We have to stay positive ! Is not it enough of negative inflated news out there !Why dont you look at this market as an opportunity for a lot of people to become a homeowners with such a low intreset rate . Do not forget its not only a price of the home important , but how much is your mortgage as well .What about 11% or 18 % of mortgage , that people have paid in 90th . By being negative and mad will not help us to get out from the situation we are in. Posted By Iryna Galevska at 1:46 PM Thursday, November 20 2008 Agree Disagree Offensive fundamentals are not strong O'Neil is trying her best to hold the fort but it's futile. She seems out of touch with what's going on in the real world and doesn't seem to know or understand what economic fundamentals mean. People will not start buying any time soon when there are job losses and uncertainty in the market. My company is about to close up shop and over 100 jobs will be lost in the GTA, tell me how we have a strong fundamentals?. Everytime she says something it sounds more and more ridiculous, uninformed, misleading and quite frankly, unprofessional. Posted By BobSaccamano at 10:54 AM Thursday, November 20 2008 Agree 6 Disagree Offensive o'neil is a joke people, the faster you quit listening to o'neil the more money you will have in your pockets. Her comments are irresponsible and will only put people in larger debt if they listen to her. THE HOUSING MARKET IS INFLATED period. The market started slowing down earlier this year, prior to the problems we are facing today. A townhouse I sold in May for $272k is now fetching $240k at best. The market will decline alot more, We will probably see prices as we seen back in the early 90's..the economy has far more issues this time then back then. Don't hate but appreciate my comment. Posted By king dudley at 10:20 AM Thursday, November 20 2008 Agree 5 Disagree Offensive houses inflated it's about time we see some adjustment here, houses should not increase anymore then inflation. This 10% increase yoy was nonsense..whoever believed that this trend was to continue needs to learn basic economics. Posted By king dudley at 9:32 AM Thursday, November 20 2008 Agree 6 Disagree Offensive O'Neill's comments are wrong and irresponsible O'Neill is completely ignoring the fundamentals of this current economic cycle. She is giving the impression that this market will turn around and continue climbing imminently. She states,"...but the market's not going up yet" and "we'll see the numbers go back up". This could take a very long time, given the global recession from which Canada is certainly not immune. Her comments are irressponsible and plainly wrong. Posted By GreatMedia at 8:59 AM Thursday, November 20 2008 Agree 4 Disagree 1 Offensive 1 earth toTREB earth to TREB I can only wonder how Brett could stop himself laughing while interviewing Maureen O'Neill saying the economic fundamentals are sound but its just bad old CNN stirring up troubles. I suggest Ms O'Neill get in her car and drive to Oshawa or Oakville and ask autoworkers if the fundamentals are sound. She then my want to talk to some Bay Street types. Finally she may want to ask some media types who work in place like Global or CTV. Ms. O'Neill's power of positive thinking may (or may not) work in a sales meeting...but as a comment to the media, she conveys the message that realtors are just sleazy sales people not to be trusted Posted By dogguy at 7:52 AM Thursday, November 20 2008 Agree 4 Disagree 1 Offensive My prediction I am not a real estate agent, but I predict that there are going to be a lot of empty homes up for sale at very cheap prices, in the future. When people lose jobs, as many are, in every sector, and can no longer afford some of the huge mortgage payments some of them have taken on, they will simply "walk away" and let them be repossessed. Posted By Mrs. McWho at 6:59 AM Thursday, November 20 2008 Agree 4 Disagree 1 Offensive "all the economic fundamentals are sound" head for the hills when you hear that** Posted By gonzo at 6:38 AM Thursday, November 20 2008 Agree 4 Disagree 1 Offensive simple math If transactions go up 50% from 2006 to 2007 then they have to come down 30% from 2007 to 2008 to be back at the same level as 2006. So if transactions are really up 24% from 2006 then they should be down less than 24% (not at 44%) from 2007 to balance things again. The land transfer tax was not the whole reason. Someone needs to go back to school for some remedial math. Posted By Richard L at 6:15 AM Thursday, November 20 2008

坏消息一个接一个，那个LESBINE经纪不崩溃不行了，之前只是上网乱骂无房户，现在估计是提着手枪在房间里串来串去嘴里还念叨着“屁眼屁眼”什么的.......他家里人都是躲在各自房间不敢出来..... 😁 😁

地产市场18年来最差！大多区屋售巨跌50% 【多伦多信息港】星报与美联社综合报导，多伦多地产重售市场正面对自从1990年代以来最不济的市道。多伦多地产局(Toronto Real Estate Board)周三公布的数据显示，大多伦多地区11月份头15日出售了1,991间房屋，与去年同期的3,544间比较，跌幅几乎达到50%。 分析员表示，这是金融市场紧张所带来的直接影响。本月的数字是全球信贷危机开始以来在地产方面的最显着改变，令到多市本年至今的销售数目开始回落至过去十年来地产蓬勃期之前的水平。 本年至今的交易宗数由去年同期的84,994宗下跌至70,474宗。 自从11月1日至今，市中心有830间民居转手，而去年同期则有1,643间。 多伦多地产分析员邓凌(Will Dunning)表示，多伦多不少地产依赖金融市场及金融服务行业，因为会计师及金融服务业的从业员购买市中心的物业。 潜在买家信心跌 他说，金融环节普遍不明朗，令到潜在买家信心下跌。 他认为，消费者可能于10月中左右已开始没有信心。 905区的交易由1,901宗减少至1,161宗。 大多伦多地区的平均屋价也告回落，由去年11月的393,084元减少至目前的375,712元，而市中心的平均住宅价格下跌了超过32,000元。 不过，多伦多地产局主席奥妮尔(Maureen O'Neill)表示，业主不用担心本身的房屋跌价。 她不认为屋价将会大幅下滑，但市道也不会上扬。她表示，目前缺乏信心，但信心将会恢复。 她又认为，现在消费信心确实出现了问题，实际上，所有的经济基础仍然健全，但人们收看美国有线新闻网(CNN)，了解了太多的负面消息，因而对时局採取了观望态度。 邓凌则表示，交易宗数或在夏季回升，但恐难以重上2007年夏季的水平。他指出，多伦多电脑交易盘的楼盘由一年前的20,173个增加至27,562个，因而对买家有利。 另方面，美国的新屋建造上月下挫至近50年来的最低水平。 美国商贸部表示，新屋及柏文10月份的建筑下跌4.5%，以年率计算，由9月份经修改的828,000个单位下降至791,000个单位。 这是政府纪录追溯至1959年1月以来的最低数字。

谢谢。

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Transactions in first half of month off nearly 44% from last year; biggest price declines in inner city November 20, 2008 http://www.yourhome.ca/homes/article/540073

拿不准的就别急冲冲地讲出来。不是房产掉不掉价的事，贱不贱的事，是人太掉价了，太贱了！

不见中文媒体有任何报导, 但见今日英文报TORONTO STAR、TORONTO SUN如是报导：The slide in toronto's real estate market continued in the first two weeks of November. Figures released yeasterday showed sales were down almost 44% from last year and prices fell, ......

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本人什么都没有，但是很开心的住着house，很享受，你们说的那些什么负资产对我来说什么意义都没有，就是有钱付贷款，就是可以住的很舒服，而且我也不像有些住公寓的，隔壁房间还分租，本人在自己的house里想干什么就干什么。托什么房市啊，跌到1元也别想从本人手上买到房子，别人我可管不着。 那些沦为零资产的，就像皇帝穿上新衣，自以为光鲜华丽，其实什么也没有。沦为负资产的，就连自己身上的皮都保不住了。大冬天的，居然有人血肉模糊的跳出来做房托，那是连最后的脸皮都不要了。 我给不了她们大衣，可也不会向她们身上洒盐。但还是要忠告一句，下雪了政府就开始洒盐了，再不要脸皮也该悠着点，否则脱脱水就成干尸了。

那些沦为零资产的，就像皇帝穿上新衣，自以为光鲜华丽，其实什么也没有。沦为负资产的，就连自己身上的皮都保不住了。大冬天的，居然有人血肉模糊的跳出来做房托，那是连最后的脸皮都不要了。 我给不了她们大衣，可也不会向她们身上洒盐。但还是要忠告一句，下雪了政府就开始洒盐了，再不要脸皮也该悠着点，否则脱脱水就成干尸了。

见过经纪急眼，没见过这么急眼的经纪 😁

虽然本人和论坛里不少人看法不同，不过不至于互相骂的如此恶毒，骂到仇恨真起来了，真人PK。 看来，要反击一下那个hezhegaigua2经纪。 哦呸，你个lesbian 经纪 hezhegaigua2，整天在此开骂，象输红眼的赌徒，变态的和吴京华一样，口似敞开的坟墓，心藏恶毒，你妈是个鸡生下你这个裆里没货的家伙，你有女儿长大了做鸡，儿子没P眼儿，就此断子绝孙。你出门立刻被车撞死。 😁 😁

看来，要反击一下那个hezhegaigua2经纪。 哦呸，你个lesbian 经纪 hezhegaigua2，整天在此开骂，象输红眼的赌徒，变态的和吴京华一样，口似敞开的坟墓，心藏恶毒，你妈是个鸡生下你这个裆里没货的家伙，你有女儿长大了做鸡，儿子没P眼儿，就此断子绝孙。你出门立刻被车撞死。 😁 😁 我不是lesbian 经纪，你讲的都与事实相反，所以你的诅咒也都相反的落在你的头上和你的盲目的附和者的头上。🤔 谁再盲目附和Dell-3P眼，其必糟同样的诅咒和下场。 Dell-3P眼

看来，要反击一下那个hezhegaigua2经纪。 哦呸，你个lesbian 经纪 hezhegaigua2，整天在此开骂，象输红眼的赌徒，变态的和吴京华一样，口似敞开的坟墓，心藏恶毒，你妈是个鸡生下你这个裆里没货的家伙，你有女儿长大了做鸡，儿子没P眼儿，就此断子绝孙。你出门立刻被车撞死。 😁 😁

关你屁事？假爷们

不仅被逼急了，而且这个不良经纪有点弱智，总说别人是个女的，即使对方是女的，又显露出你的什么素质来呢？ 是个爷们，就得就事伦事，整天纠缠对方是男是女关你屁事？

我不明白楼上那个不要脸的为何那么憎恨地产经纪，你如果认为自己比别人聪明，永远不要买房子，永远不要用地产经纪。我知道你是一个穷鬼，看到别人都住大房，自己难受得要死，那也犯不着和经纪过不去呀。无论你在这里怎么干嚎，有钱人照买，只有穷光蛋才期待物价下降，房价下跌，手里没有钞票，房价升降和你都没有关系。 不良经纪显了原形了! 有一点, 不良经纪骂错了, 真正的富人实际都非常精明, 非常仔细, 从不干赔本的买卖, 否则拿钱打水飘儿, 再有钱, 也早成"穷光蛋"了. 所以不管穷人还是富人, 都会期待物价下降，房价下跌, 跌到不跌再买!

阿强玩不下去了吧？我总觉得你是女的，有所注意。可是你不注意。

我不明白楼上那个不要脸的为何那么憎恨地产经纪，你如果认为自己比别人聪明，永远不要买房子，永远不要用地产经纪。我知道你是一个穷鬼，看到别人都住大房，自己难受得要死，那也犯不着和经纪过不去呀。无论你在这里怎么干嚎，有钱人照买，只有穷光蛋才期待物价下降，房价下跌，手里没有钞票，房价升降和你都没有关系。 经纪疯了，口不择言，恶毒攻击买不起房或现在不想买房的大部分普通人

搞你，你倒笑死了。那我就没有内疚感了。你心口不一，是我愚钝。😁

阿强 啊，你们已经把这些傻B经纪搞急眼了，可不可以就这么算了，不要再刺激他们了？ 看样子不把你这个傻B一起干，你也是不甘心。没问题！

所以我便想：其实活着该刮经纪也是这样的一路货。 我在被活刮之前，搞你两下，可以理解吗？反正也没好了！

“不附和粗鲁的人的帖子”，包括不包括来至你的粗鲁贴子？？？？

我本来不忍心干你的，可是你自己骂人找挨操。我甚至觉得你希望这样。该死的人什么不能干！？

阿强 啊，你们已经把这些傻B经纪搞急眼了，可不可以就这么算了，不要再刺激他们了？

）， 有经纪看了立即如坐针毯，你看看其留言：“不明白你为什么那么憎恨地产经纪.....不用整天写东西咒骂经纪。你好像是得了经纪恐惧症。" 心里恐慌得要命。译文里完全没有什么咒骂的东西，只是原作者做了一个假设，他/她便害怕得要死，我想他/她的骨子里潜意识里以为就是在说他/她了。 联想以前问你对”不良经纪是怎么看的“的这个问题时，你亦只是用什么“ 不可取”这样的中性的词含含糊糊的支吾过去，所以我便想：其实活着该刮经纪也是这样的一路货。 所以我便想：其实阿强拍砖家也是这样的一路欠操的货。

有不少经纪，只要别人一说不良经纪的不良行为，他/她便如坐针毯，以为说的就是他/她。原因是什么？因为他/她心中有鬼。所以，凡是说到一些不良经纪的作法，他/她便说为何又攻击经纪了！要挺身自卫。因为，看一看这些批评，他/她心中就没数-----这说的不就是他/她吗！所以，一种动物的本能，就开始回贴骂开了。 我做了一个译文《总是购房良机？识破劝购忽悠，自己做好投资评估》（见：http://blog.51.ca/u-7687/）， 有经纪看了立即如坐针毯，你看看其留言：“不明白你为什么那么憎恨地产经纪.....不用整天写东西咒骂经纪。你好像是得了经纪恐惧症。" 心里恐慌得要命。译文里完全没有什么咒骂的东西，只是原作者做了一个假设，他/她便害怕得要死，我想他/她的骨子里潜意识里以为就是在说他/她了。 联想以前问你对”不良经纪是怎么看的“的这个问题时，你亦只是用什么“ 不可取”这样的中性的词含含糊糊的支吾过去，所以我便想：其实活着该刮经纪也是这样的一路货。

面对Dell-3P眼这种没皮没脸加没羞没臊，毫无廉耻和自尊的人，还有什么可说的吗？ Dell-3P'd better to tell a lie thousands of times to make it become a truth. Dell-3P'd better to use your wrong grammar thousands of times to let everybody think it is right.

攻击地产经纪是开始冠以“不良”二字是不敢攻击所有的经纪了，只能攻击所谓不良的那小部分经纪了。 我指得是你们明白了下面的登峰造极的名言是打击一大片的，自我孤立的，丧失公信力的，不可取的。 ======Dell 名言======= 地产商、地产经纪将在未来的市场上消失。