可我觉得还是个人评论啊。
那个记者虽然说是"公安部统计",但我却无法验证他说得准不准。
很多网站引用他的说法,但他的数据如何而来,中国的交通事故死亡率是多少,美国的交通事故死亡率是多少,印度的交通事故死亡率是多少,他都没给出,一句"据公安部统计"就完了。
而且,根据他的数据2006年是8万9千人死于交通意外,和你前面引用的文章以及WHO 的报告的数据相比,是在减少,而不是增加。
This whole argument is invalid. You can not get real data in China.
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macrophage
2009-01-11 00:54
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just do a search on yahoo or baidu,it's everywhere.
可我觉得还是个人评论啊。
那个记者虽然说是"公安部统计",但我却无法验证他说得准不准。
很多网站引用他的说法,但他的数据如何而来,中国的交通事故死亡率是多少,美国的交通事故死亡率是多少,印度的交通事故死亡率是多少,他都没给出,一句"据公安部统计"就完了。
而且,根据他的数据2006年是8万9千人死于交通意外,和你前面引用的文章以及WHO 的报告的数据相比,是在减少,而不是增加。
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283y
2009-01-10 23:58
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in the road traffic fatalities, not the road traffic fatality .
it's not 个人评论, it's from yahoo news, the title claims "公安部统计". here is another one from xinhuanet.
http://www.qh.xinhuanet.com/trafficxn/2007-04/17/content_9810834.htm
just do a search on yahoo or baidu,it's everywhere.
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欲晓
2009-01-10 23:55
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我想在加拿大买中国汽车等了很多年了,希望早日实现我的夙愿。
me too!
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苍蝇拍
2009-01-10 23:52
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the road traffic fatality was 178,894. the road traffic fatality =/= 交通事故死亡人数.
In the absence of adequate public funding and an effective administration department under the Chinese government, the development of road traffic injury surveillance and information systems has been too slow to meet present requirements of MVC control and prevention efforts in China. In addition, it has made comparisons difficult when doing MVC research in China (15). For example, at present, much of the developed world defines the mortality of a road traffic collision according to the number of deaths occurring up to 30 days after injury (43). China, however, defines it according to the number of deaths occurring within 7 days after injury, and the number of death wasn’t taken into account for a road traffic collision’s data while the MVC occurred on the railroad in China (20). In addition, there are still eight kinds of road traffic collisions that aren’t incorporated into national statistics in China. For instance, MVCs occurring on private roads constructed by factories, mines and farms’ owners, on cluster paths between houses or buildings, on sections of road still being constructed, and at rail crossings have not been included into traffic collision statistics. Thus, there are frequent discrepancies between data from groups such as police and from health-related sources due to different standards of data collection. As well, underreporting of road traffic injuries also limits the validity of some existing data sources. There is no doubt that this kind of situation can explain why there were different statistical results reported by China and the WHO in 2002.
According to a 2004 WHO report, the number of MVC mortality was 250,007 in 2002 .
The number of MVC deaths reported by the Chinese government was only 107,000 in 2002.
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macrophage
2009-01-10 23:46
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the road traffic fatality was 178,894. the road traffic fatality =/= 交通事故死亡人数.
这个和上面那个一样啊。
某论坛的个人评论,根本没有可信的可供论证的数据来源。
确实,the road traffic fatality =/= 交通事故死亡人数.
However, 178,894 is the number of lives lost in the road traffic fatalities, not the number of the road traffic fatalities .
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283y
2009-01-10 23:37
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你引用的文章,来自某一地方论坛,输个人评论,无论结论还是数据都缺乏足够可信的论证来源。
Sedona引用的文章数据来自WHO,比你提供的要可信得多。根据此文章提供的数据,中国1998年交通事故死亡人数是17万8千多人。
怎么可能在逐年增长后,去年反而减少到107077人?
how about this?
公安部统计显示中国车祸死亡率全球最高
http://xk.cn.yahoo.com/articles/080521/1/a7ab.html
the road traffic fatality was 178,894. the road traffic fatality =/= 交通事故死亡人数.
Thanks for your information. However, it is statistics in 1998. We are in 2009 now and do you know how much change can be made in past ten years?
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苍蝇拍
2009-01-10 23:19
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In China, the road traffic injury was 5,384,909 in 1998;
In North America, the road traffic injury was 1,670,374.
In China, the population was 1.248 billion in 1998;
http://www.cpirc.org.cn/en/totpope.htm
In North America, the population was 0.394 billion in 1998.
http://env.chass.utoronto.ca/env200.../population.pdf
The crude rate of the road traffic injury in China was 5,384,909 /1.248 billion =0.0043 in 1998.
The crude rate of the road traffic injury in North America was 1,670,374/0.394 billion =0.0042 in 1998.
Is there a big difference in the crude rate of the road traffic injury between China and North America?
No big difference.
car fatality rates in China rank the second highest in the world, second only to India, based on a survey in 1998, which is dated.
How did you get the result above?
You mean 'fatality = fatality rate' ???
In China, the road traffic fatality was 178,894 in 1998;
In India, the road traffic fatality was 216,859 in 1998;
In North America, the road traffic fatality was 49,304.
The information is from your link above.
In China, the population was 1.248 billion in 1998;
http://www.cpirc.org.cn/en/totpope.htm
In North America, the population was 0.394 billion in 1998.
http://env.chass.utoronto.ca/env200y/ESSAY02/population.pdf
The crude rate of the road traffic fatality in China was 178,894/1.248 billion =1.4 e-4 in 1998.
The crude rate of the road traffic fatality in North America was 49,304/0.394 billion =1.25 e-4 in 1998.
Is there a big difference in the crude rate of the road traffic fatality between China and North America?
No big difference.
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