比起留学生的苦，新移民真不该抱怨！

我是个移民，也是个学生，因此对留学生有一些了解。我很喜欢他们。他们要比国内的同龄人要有阅历，对生活的理解也深厚。不可能每个都好，但是很多都是很优秀的人。 其实每个国家都不是很善待留学生，所以也不必要抱怨过甚。

加拿大什么样的人没有，何必分类呢 就事论事比较厚道

最初由 大虫 发布： 在面向中国人自己的51中文网站，动不动就英语伺候，能说明点你什么呢？ 😊 提倡大家多用中文，何况有些英文语法真不感苟同。如果是因为在办公室打中文不方便的，则另当别论。

最初由 yychen 发布： 支持 文章太好 ！！！ 最讨厌那些天天说权利、公平的人 未有付出，先索回报！！！ 再说，加拿大政府是要求申请入境的。有谁拥有加国 入境请柬呢！！！ 没权利？回去吧...... 不公平？回去吧...... ............ 此言谬矣！土生土长的加拿大人也在天天要求权益，要求公平。因为这些，难道你就让他们回去吗？他们能回到哪里去呢？为什么中国人要求自己的权益和要求公平就不行了呢？你这人啊，就欠被别人歧视！

最初由 西北老狼 发布： Good Article! I support you! Some of our new immigrations always complain, always looking for some way to get free money. They are cheating to get E.I., then go to school using our tax payer' money; They are cheating to move their money to other's account then they can get discount for tuition fee, OSAP, daycare, government house...; They are cheating to live in Quebec but working in Ottawa to get Quebec government's money; They are cheating to pass the English test in China and use fault documentation to qualify their immigrations. They are cheating to be a single father or mother to get benefit from government; They complain no company hires them, government delayed their parent(s) to come; They look down those people come from Fu Jian and Guang Dong as refugee; They look down students as garbage... Any way, they are the best in the world. What I what to tell them: SHAME ON YOU!!! Have you ever thought what kind of contribution you made for Canada? How much tax you paid to Canada and how much you get from? ESL, LINK, Job shop, free health care, free highway, free park, free education for your child(ren).... All of these, you can't get any thing free from China! If you don't like here, no one hold you in here, no one invited you to stay in here. Go back! You are not qualified as an immigration! We Canadians don't like you! Only loser complains, Only loser looks down others and other's job, because you can't be involved, and reach that level! Anyone in here, no matter you are native, immigration, refugee, student.. if you work hard, smart to earn your money, we will respect on you. There is no big difference on what kind of job your are doing... Labor job what?! 70% of Canadians are doing different kind of labor job. Ask yourself, how many skill set do you have to do these "LABOR JOB!!!?" Anyway, in here Canada, no one like to listen your complain, no one owe your money. One thing the auther failed to mention is that those garbage visa student would do everything, including fake marriage, claiming refugee status, buying work documentation, to get immigration status to start doing those things you mentioned above. Before that, what those garbage visa students do is envying and bad-mouthing new immigrants and showing the glories of their family -- which of course not to be belived by many.

文章太好 ！！！ 最讨厌那些天天说权利、公平的人 未有付出，先索回报！！！ 再说，加拿大政府是要求申请入境的。有谁拥有加国 入境请柬呢！！！ 没权利？回去吧...... 不公平？回去吧...... ............

最初由 枫叶一刀鲜 发布： 既然是中文网，你就不能好好写点中文吗，还长篇大伦。 写成（broken)英文给鬼佬看, 很好。

最初由 西北老狼 发布： Good Article! I support you! Some of our new immigrations always complain, always looking for some way to get free money. They are cheating to get E.I., then go to school using our tax payer' money; They are cheating to move their money to other's account then they can get discount for tuition fee, OSAP, daycare, government house...; They are cheating to live in Quebec but working in Ottawa to get Quebec government's money; They are cheating to pass the English test in China and use fault documentation to qualify their immigrations. They are cheating to be a single father or mother to get benefit from government; They complain no company hires them, government delayed their parent(s) to come; They look down those people come from Fu Jian and Guang Dong as refugee; They look down students as garbage... Any way, they are the best in the world. What I what to tell them: SHAME ON YOU!!! Have you ever thought what kind of contribution you made for Canada? How much tax you paid to Canada and how much you get from? ESL, LINK, Job shop, free health care, free highway, free park, free education for your child(ren).... All of these, you can't get any thing free from China! If you don't like here, no one hold you in here, no one invited you to stay in here. Go back! You are not qualified as an immigration! We Canadians don't like you! Only loser complains, Only loser looks down others and other's job, because you can't be involved, and reach that level! Anyone in here, no matter you are native, immigration, refugee, student.. if you work hard, smart to earn your money, we will respect on you. There is no big difference on what kind of job your are doing... Labor job what?! 70% of Canadians are doing different kind of labor job. Ask yourself, how many skill set do you have to do these "LABOR JOB!!!?" Anyway, in here Canada, no one like to listen your complain, no one owe your money. 既然是中文网，你就不能好好写点中文吗，还长篇大伦。

比起留学生的苦，新移民真不该抱怨！ 可是，好好的， 谁愿意跟留学生比！

最初由 TorontoBoatMan 发布： 我在餐馆送餐时认识一留学生，从东北来的。 第一天，他吹嘘家里有多富，宝马，石油生意，豪宅等等，大有来体验苦日子的架势； 第二天，他向我借信用卡开手提电话（被我拒）； 第三天，他向所有人广播我这人多小气； 第四天，老板请他走人，表面上的理由是他家太有钱，不用在餐馆打杂， 实际上所有员工都认为该留学生是骗子。 ... 过一段时间，我看见他在一超市卖肉 你说的这人我知道 冒充东北来的 实际上他是从台南来的 四处招摇撞骗 素质很差

最初由 lisi891 发布： 比起留学生的苦，新移民真不该抱怨！ 移民有移民的苦，留学生有留学生的苦。即便每一个人的经历、社会责任、年龄和境况都不一样，谁更苦，根本没有可比性。比如一个在英国可怜的湖南小留学生打工累死了，以及多伦多耿朝晖跳楼，摞下幼儿妻子，两个家庭的悲剧能定量比较吗？ 移民和留学生本来都是中国人，为什么总是被人对立比较？何况，留学生也可变移民。再者，移民不是留学生批准的，留学生也不是移民批准的，都是加拿大政府部门审批的。如果在某些方面要抱怨，跟加拿大政府部门交涉好了。而移民和留学生互相抱怨比较没有任何意义，两个群体利益本来就不冲突。 我不太认同作者的观点，任何一个国家多照顾本国居民的利益和权利是在正常不过的事情。在上学期间，加拿大政府本来就是让留学生来学习的，不是来工作的。同样，即使在中国，公园门票对于中国人和老外也不一样。 我相信大部分移民和留学生相处很和谐，至少我周围是这样。许多小留学生很努力上进，作为平均年龄大一点的移民朋友应该多关心小留学生，而不能去指责他们。 在老外眼里，移民和留学生都是中国人。如果窝子里不团结，对于整个华人圈恐怕不是好事情。 非常同意这位的观点。有些人是这样，用文革的话说，就是喜欢“挑起群众斗群众”，“惟恐天下不乱”！

最初由 文森特 发布： 楼上的哥们儿，发个贴你也能发错还得发2遍，哈哈，耻笑一下~~ [/QUOT 呵呵，愿被你耻笑。我叫“大虫”，正所谓“xx也有打盹的时候”。多谢提醒啊。

最初由 TorontoBoatMan 发布： 看来这些垃圾留学生在打肿脸充胖子时，还挺羡慕穷移民的 什么叫垃圾留学生？留学生哪惹到你了？大家都是中国人，你用的着用＂垃圾＂这样的词吗？不可否认，某些留学生是在炫耀露富，因为他们都还年轻不够成熟，正是看到这个问题，好多留学生的家长才把自己的孩子送出国锻炼他们，我相信经过几年的磨练，这些留学生会变的成熟．而事实上，大多数留学生都是很辛苦的，有多少留学生能够在凌晨２点前睡觉的？他们都在忙功课，因为打工占据了他们一部分学习时间；你又知不知道，多少懂事的留学生心里想着自己在国外花父母的血汗钱，自己又没有经济能力分担的无助心情吗？你说留学生打肿脸充胖子，难道没有一点点体现出你的眼红吗？

最初由 大虫 发布： 那哥们儿除了说英语以外别的说的还有一定道理，的确有些人做了他说的那些事儿。

但起的名字太大，有一杆横扫的问题。 一楼及后来几贴都在这点上忙活。 如果文章叫--比起某些留学生的苦，有些新移民真不该抱怨！ 会好些。 对楼主提倡的新移民要在提高英语下功夫，深有同感。 想想在国内也是一样，在北京上海，本地口音绝对有优先权。

楼上的哥们儿，发个贴你也能发错还得发2遍，哈哈，耻笑一下~~

最初由 西北老狼 发布： Good Article! I support you! Some of our new immigrations always complain, always looking for some way to get free money. They are cheating to get E.I., then go to school using our tax payer' money; They are cheating to move their money to other's account then they can get discount for tuition fee, OSAP, daycare, government house...; They are cheating to live in Quebec but working in Ottawa to get Quebec government's money; They are cheating to pass the English test in China and use fault documentation to qualify their immigrations. They are cheating to be a single father or mother to get benefit from government; They complain no company hires them, government delayed their parent(s) to come; They look down those people come from Fu Jian and Guang Dong as refugee; They look down students as garbage... Any way, they are the best in the world. What I what to tell them: SHAME ON YOU!!! Have you ever thought what kind of contribution you made for Canada? How much tax you paid to Canada and how much you get from? ESL, LINK, Job shop, free health care, free highway, free park, free education for your child(ren).... All of these, you can't get any thing free from China! If you don't like here, no one hold you in here, no one invited you to stay in here. Go back! You are not qualified as an immigration! We Canadians don't like you! Only loser complains, Only loser looks down others and other's job, because you can't be involved, and reach that level! Anyone in here, no matter you are native, immigration, refugee, student.. if you work hard, smart to earn your money, we will respect on you. There is no big difference on what kind of job your are doing... Labor job what?! 70% of Canadians are doing different kind of labor job. Ask yourself, how many skill set do you have to do these "LABOR JOB!!!?" Anyway, in here Canada, no one like to listen your complain, no one owe your money. 别老以为自己来加拿大的时间长，别老以为自己的英语如何的好，别老以为自己纳的税多过别人。加拿大就是这样一个国家，政策也就是这样。看看加拿大每年接受了多少难民，再看看这些接收来的难民都在做些什么，你就不难明白，中国人，不管他（她）目前怎么样，只要是合法来的并合法生存的，都还是不错的。另外，加拿大自己都在检讨自己的移民政策，把移民弄来了却没有很好地安置，你还逞什么能呢？在面向中国人自己的51中文网站，动不动就英语伺候，能说明点你什么呢？

最初由 西北老狼 发布： Good Article! I support you! Some of our new immigrations always complain, always looking for some way to get free money. They are cheating to get E.I., then go to school using our tax payer' money; They are cheating to move their money to other's account then they can get discount for tuition fee, OSAP, daycare, government house...; They are cheating to live in Quebec but working in Ottawa to get Quebec government's money; They are cheating to pass the English test in China and use fault documentation to qualify their immigrations. They are cheating to be a single father or mother to get benefit from government; They complain no company hires them, government delayed their parent(s) to come; They look down those people come from Fu Jian and Guang Dong as refugee; They look down students as garbage... Any way, they are the best in the world. What I what to tell them: SHAME ON YOU!!! Have you ever thought what kind of contribution you made for Canada? How much tax you paid to Canada and how much you get from? ESL, LINK, Job shop, free health care, free highway, free park, free education for your child(ren).... All of these, you can't get any thing free from China! If you don't like here, no one hold you in here, no one invited you to stay in here. Go back! You are not qualified as an immigration! We Canadians don't like you! Only loser complains, Only loser looks down others and other's job, because you can't be involved, and reach that level! Anyone in here, no matter you are native, immigration, refugee, student.. if you work hard, smart to earn your money, we will respect on you. There is no big difference on what kind of job your are doing... Labor job what?! 70% of Canadians are doing different kind of labor job. Ask yourself, how many skill set do you have to do these "LABOR JOB!!!?" 别老以为自己来加拿大的时间长，别老以为自己的英语如何的好，别老以为自己纳的税多过别人。加拿大就是这样一个国家，政策也就是这样。看看加拿大每年接受了多少难民，再看看这些接收来的难民都在做些什么，你就不难明白，中国人，不管他（她）目前怎么样，只要是合法来的并合法生存的，都还是不错的。另外，加拿大自己都在检讨自己的移民政策，把移民弄来了却没有很好地安置，你还逞什么能呢？在面向中国人自己的51中文网站，动不动就英语伺候，能说明点你什么呢？ Anyway, in here Canada, no one like to listen your complain, no one owe your money.

There is no big difference on what kind of job your are doing... You're wrong my friend. There's big difference in these! I get paid 30+ per hour to surf the WEB, to post on ca51 if I like, what's my job ? network admin!

眼看着您和”小草“掐了起来，才忙不迭翻看了”小草“和您的原文。说句老实话，的确感到您原来的帖很不”厚道“，如果有”怨妇“之说，您起码也能够上个”怨男“当当。 对同一件事情，每个人有每个人的看法，每个人有每个人的处理方法，这无可厚非。只要不违法，每个人都可以主张自己的权利，这好象也没什么。这怎么就让您气得暴跳如雷、火冒三丈，干嘛呀，您别累着，气大伤身啊。

寫得好﹗ 就沒看見幾個能讓人欣賞的新移民﹐尤其男的移民。小留學生挺好﹐不過太不成熟 了﹐尤其男小留學生。看來只能嫁CBC了。 最初由 西北老狼 发布： Good Article! I support you! Some of our new immigrations always complain, always looking for some way to get free money. They are cheating to get E.I., then go to school using our tax payer' money; They are cheating to move their money to other's account then they can get discount for tuition fee, OSAP, daycare, government house...; They are cheating to live in Quebec but working in Ottawa to get Quebec government's money; They are cheating to pass the English test in China and use fault documentation to qualify their immigrations. They are cheating to be a single father or mother to get benefit from government; They complain no company hires them, government delayed their parent(s) to come; They look down those people come from Fu Jian and Guang Dong as refugee; They look down students as garbage... Any way, they are the best in the world. What I what to tell them: SHAME ON YOU!!! Have you ever thought what kind of contribution you made for Canada? How much tax you paid to Canada and how much you get from? ESL, LINK, Job shop, free health care, free highway, free park, free education for your child(ren).... All of these, you can't get any thing free from China! If you don't like here, no one hold you in here, no one invited you to stay in here. Go back! You are not qualified as an immigration! We Canadians don't like you! Only loser complains, Only loser looks down others and other's job, because you can't be involved, and reach that level! Anyone in here, no matter you are native, immigration, refugee, student.. if you work hard, smart to earn your money, we will respect on you. There is no big difference on what kind of job your are doing... Labor job what?! 70% of Canadians are doing different kind of labor job. Ask yourself, how many skill set do you have to do these "LABOR JOB!!!?" Anyway, in here Canada, no one like to listen your complain, no one owe your money.

最初由 TorontoBoatMan 发布： 我在餐馆送餐时认识一留学生，从东北来的。 第一天，他吹嘘家里有多富，宝马，石油生意，豪宅等等，大有来体验苦日子的架势； 第二天，他向我借信用卡开手提电话（被我拒）； 第三天，他向所有人广播我这人多小气； 第四天，老板请他走人，表面上的理由是他家太有钱，不用在餐馆打杂， 实际上所有员工都认为该留学生是骗子。 ... 过一段时间，我看见他在一超市卖肉 这几句话发在这里很无理头，为了证明留学生很差吗？

支持，好文章！

我在餐馆送餐时认识一留学生，从东北来的。 第一天，他吹嘘家里有多富，宝马，石油生意，豪宅等等，大有来体验苦日子的架势； 第二天，他向我借信用卡开手提电话（被我拒）； 第三天，他向所有人广播我这人多小气； 第四天，老板请他走人，表面上的理由是他家太有钱，不用在餐馆打杂， 实际上所有员工都认为该留学生是骗子。 ... 过一段时间，我看见他在一超市卖肉

Good Article! I support you! Some of our new immigrations always complain, always looking for some way to get free money. They are cheating to get E.I., then go to school using our tax payer' money; They are cheating to move their money to other's account then they can get discount for tuition fee, OSAP, daycare, government house...; They are cheating to live in Quebec but working in Ottawa to get Quebec government's money; They are cheating to pass the English test in China and use fault documentation to qualify their immigrations. They are cheating to be a single father or mother to get benefit from government; They complain no company hires them, government delayed their parent(s) to come; They look down those people come from Fu Jian and Guang Dong as refugee; They look down students as garbage... Any way, they are the best in the world. What I what to tell them: SHAME ON YOU!!! Have you ever thought what kind of contribution you made for Canada? How much tax you paid to Canada and how much you get from? ESL, LINK, Job shop, free health care, free highway, free park, free education for your child(ren).... All of these, you can't get any thing free from China! If you don't like here, no one hold you in here, no one invited you to stay in here. Go back! You are not qualified as an immigration! We Canadians don't like you! Only loser complains, Only loser looks down others and other's job, because you can't be involved, and reach that level! Anyone in here, no matter you are native, immigration, refugee, student.. if you work hard, smart to earn your money, we will respect on you. There is no big difference on what kind of job your are doing... Labor job what?! 70% of Canadians are doing different kind of labor job. Ask yourself, how many skill set do you have to do these "LABOR JOB!!!?" Anyway, in here Canada, no one like to listen your complain, no one owe your money.

顶!!!!!!!!!这篇文章写的太好了!!!!!!!!!! 😊

移民有移民的苦，留学生有留学生的苦。即便每一个人的经历、社会责任、年龄和境况都不一样，谁更苦，根本没有可比性。比如一个在英国可怜的湖南小留学生打工累死了，以及多伦多耿朝晖跳楼，摞下幼儿妻子，两个家庭的悲剧能定量比较吗？ 移民和留学生本来都是中国人，为什么总是被人对立比较？何况，留学生也可变移民。再者，移民不是留学生批准的，留学生也不是移民批准的，都是加拿大政府部门审批的。如果在某些方面要抱怨，跟加拿大政府部门交涉好了。而移民和留学生互相抱怨比较没有任何意义，两个群体利益本来就不冲突。 我不太认同作者的观点，任何一个国家多照顾本国居民的利益和权利是在正常不过的事情。在上学期间，加拿大政府本来就是让留学生来学习的，不是来工作的。同样，即使在中国，公园门票对于中国人和老外也不一样。 我相信大部分移民和留学生相处很和谐，至少我周围是这样。许多小留学生很努力上进，作为平均年龄大一点的移民朋友应该多关心小留学生，而不能去指责他们。 在老外眼里，移民和留学生都是中国人。如果窝子里不团结，对于整个华人圈恐怕不是好事情。