感激爸妈：他们从未给自己儿子丢过脸

个人认为不是生孝子生逆子的问题。人之初一团肉哦，全在于后天的教育、培养。

Here is how you say it: "does giving money to kids mean loving them?".

回复 账号无法删除：我根本就不是在评价JACK本人如何，我是觉得他的发言误导家长，会使更多的孩子们受委屈，所以要说几句。我认为不在于家长为孩子具体花了多少钱，而在于家长是不是尽力而为了。JACK的贴子似乎是在鼓励家长们对孩子越抠越好，生活条件越差越好。他自己受了苦，现在希望更多的孩子受苦。按照他的理论，等他老婆怀孕了，他们应该立刻搬到地下室去住，楼上招几家房客，否则将来他的孩子就当不上“精神富三代”了，那多可惜呀！

回复 Jstar：I do feel sorry for you. Although you do received education in Western, you mind is as narrow as some uneducated Chinese parents who believe giving material is the best and only way to show their love to their children. Do you understand why some US millionaires ask their children do household to get allowance?

I don't like talking too much either, but I have to point out some differents opinion against you. 1. This article never mentioned that parents should mistreat their children. Definitely, I believe all kids get the necessary life support from their family even their parents are new immigrant who struggle for life. What this article want to tell kids is they should not feel shame if their parents are poor or could not give them every thing they want. 2. I don't know how successful you are. I didn't feel the author is coming this forum来找感觉的, but I do feel you are here 来找感觉的. I also believe the suggestions at the end of this article is quite useful to some parents who do what they could for their kids but can't get their respect. It is also help those parents to educate their children to ensure their have healthy personality. It is OK for author to be proud for his achievement since we should always applaud for every success in our life. 3. If you really familiar with Chinese soccer team and read all the detail report about them, you should know their failures have nothing to do with congenital, the only one reason is they are spoiled and lazy. They have highest salary but least training. If they work as hard as other athletes. I believe they will succeed. Same as all those Chinese in Canada either they are first or second generation immigrants or international students. I saw so much successful story happend around me including myself. Nothing to show off just want to give some confidences to people who are struggling. I had worked in the lowest position in one of largest company in canada 5 years ago when I just be here, a little better than cleaner, but unfortunately, cleaner is not employee of my company. I never lose my faith and do excellent job even it is half labour. After my English graduately improved, I got 3 promotions in 4 years and work in my profession field also involve in the executive. When you boss look at you, they don't care 你是在地下室长大的, or 是听歌剧、看芭蕾、旅游度假长大的. What they care is whether you are hard working, good interpersonal skill, professional competency....... I agree that the higher position you are, the more competitive it would be. The major barrier and challege for immigrant is English. So do whatever you could to improve it. Keep in mind the culture differents. Chinese be educated too modest. If you work in the western company don't be afraid to express your opinion. In a word, this is a good article and I believe the author could have an excellent future.

回复 zhen2005：I like what you said and agree most part of your points, and also, as you said, most of chinese doesnt speak decent english as of english is the most important tool here in canada for LIFE, glad you are having it. however, something i not really agree with you is that the growing pain will always a life long pain, your background and living environment does make different inside of you compare with others how has different life style from childhood. be positive and commit that as a nagative. Chinese who wants to live as what they like - china or be your own boss. no other choice. my2cents

回复 zhen2005：你说我是来找感觉的, 我可一句没提过我的年收入\我开什么车\住什么房. 我只是想为可怜的孩子们说几句公道话. 倒是你, 使劲提自己, 和那个JACK一模一样, "After my English graduately improved, I got 3 promotions in 4 years and work in my profession field also involve in the executive. " 什么叫"involve in the executive"? 你是executive, 是就说是,不是就不是, involve个什么劲?

个人认为，文章出自谁的手并不是最重要的，重要的是能否引发人去思考。

不要苛求年轻人有同你一样的经历。任何人只要知道感恩，有乐观向上、积极进取的行为或想法，我们都应该为他/她喝彩。我们都是平凡人，应用平常心来看人、看事。 这样的年轻人，他的父母一定为他感到骄傲。

agree. Look at this: ?????

Let me ask you a question: "Have you ever done one or two stupid things?" If the answer is yes, does that mean you don't deserve appreciation at all?

同意你！丢脸不丢脸？谁给谁丢脸？这些话听上去确实令人感觉不那么舒服，里面加上了很多价值判断的成分。 个人认为身为父母不必伟大，我们可以很平凡；但一定要做足支持孩子的角色。孩子小时候是管教成分多；孩子大了，成为青少年了；还是以支持为主吧。

回复 qqxk：So what's your answer?