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他不喜欢同性恋,就不参加同性恋游行。 他不喜欢星报,就让大家不去看。 他不会因为政治影响,就刻意隐瞒自己的真实想法和感受。
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他不喜欢亚裔,就说“the oriental people work like dog,..., they are taking over"。
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福特也许不是一个成熟的政客,却是一个爱憎分明的性情中人。我支持他。
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是吗?你倒是说说他爱什么憎什么?
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November, 2010 Toronto Star 星报欠 Asians 一个道歉声明
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对我来说, 歧视华人的言行, 只要道歉了, 就算过去了. 可能算宽容吧. 但歧视华人还不道歉, 象星报那样. 无论谁提议抵制星报, 我都会支持!
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不用谁提议,自觉抵制!😆
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回复 wu虑:只要星报坚持对发表歧视亚裔社论的行为不道歉, 我就会响应任何人抵制星报的呼吁, 不管他是左派还是右派. 种族主义言论, 有人能坚持一年不道歉, 有人能坚持10年不道歉. 没关系, 看星报能坚持几年?
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回复 淘声依旧:我这个华人自认为自己是亚裔. 星报坚持对发表歧视亚裔社论的行为不道歉, 所以我不反对/不痛批任何人呼吁抵制星报, 相反站出来呼吁抵制星报的人越多越好!
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我不给在中文论坛里用英文发帖的回帖
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Wow, please do. It's an honor to have your response. Who do you think you are 🙂 ?
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种族主义在流淌在某些本地白人的血液里的,是植入在他们的骨髓里的! 这些人需要被时刻地敲打! 各位看客,在看这场猪咬狗的好戏的同时,别忘了亚裔,华裔将是始终是种族主义的受害者!
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诸位有点跑题了. 这个帖子要讨论的是:华人是不是要反对抵制星报? 如果华人抵制星报是对的, 那么为什么反对非华人抵制星报呢? 至于福特两年多前的言论和一年多前的正式道歉, 有人觉得还不够, 还要他继续对华人做什么, 跟抵制星报无关. 为什么要搅到一起? 对我来说, 歧视华人的言行, 只要道歉了, 就算过去了. 可能算宽容吧. 但歧视华人还不道歉, 象星报那样. 无论谁提议抵制星报, 我都会支持!
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这个帖子不需要讨论,文章里已经说得很清楚了:福特不接受星报记者访问,可以是他个人的选择,但是不向所有传媒提供官方文件,则是违反了基本的原则及滥用程序
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回复 wu虑:对我来说, 歧视华人的言行, 只要道歉了, 就算过去了. 可能算宽容吧. 但歧视华人还不道歉, 象星报那样. 无论谁提议抵制星报, 我都会支持! TMD, 星报发表歧视亚裔社论时,怎么不抱怨它搞的亚裔和非亚裔双重标准, 做婊子还想立牌坊?
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回复 wu虑:The Star can get whatever documents they want from the City of Toronto. The city just not proactively deliver their publications/news conferences to Star. The two are different and I hope you understand.
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福特为什么要道歉,这文章说得是比较“客观公正”: 福特发言之后,会议室内一阵喧嚣,众人要求他立即道歉。时任多伦多市长苗大伟(David Miller)带头要求他为自己的言论公开道歉。“这些话令人难以接受,”市长批评说。“我们(生活的城市)是世界上最多元化的城市之一。我们不会用种族或宗教的眼光区分人们……这样说是完全不道德的,而且当选的官员们更应该懂得这个道理。”苗大伟说。
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You think David Miller is better?
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支持福特
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原来胖福和苗大伟有私仇,他才非要推翻老苗的轻轨计划,赔上几亿的违约金也要干,豁出去了,要争这口气!
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Evidences, buddy?!
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福特他心知肚明自己的所作所为,所以他曾经说过:没有连任的打算,所以也就对付这做一届就回家-------走人!
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Where is the other part "They’re slowly taking over." 要说就说全,别说一半,藏一半。
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星报本来就是垃圾报纸,流氓报纸,抵制?免费送都没人要!·太阳报就更粗俗了!
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胖福心胸太狭窄了! 不配当这个大市的市长, 到土狼屯当村长倒还行! 老张等人列队欢迎! 小巴掌鼓得山响!!!! 哈哈
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福特封杀星报,政府的新闻发布唯独不发给星报。福卫兵跟着抵制星报,多伦多星报依然是全加拿大读者最多的报纸,这倒是暴露福特的浅薄和极端。 斑竹:环球邮报和多伦多星报都刊载了福特呼吁公众不要看星报的文章,刚刚看了一下,环球上读者评论804个,星报网上评论1160个。反应都很火爆。 一帮福卫兵盲目追从福特,完全忘了自己是什么人,福特这种反亚裔、反移民的政客,有你们的支持他更可以对少数族裔为所欲为。
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看来你很高兴星报发表"asian student suffering for success"这样反亚裔种族主义社论,还坚持一年多至今也不道歉. 你只关心福特正式道歉还不行, 还要bla bla bla. 你到底是关心所有反亚裔言论, 还是区别对待? 自由党粉丝不考虑民族的利益, 只有党.
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He can't and nobody can. It's Canada pal.
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就在福特支持的《环球邮报》上,上个月就曾刊登过严厉批评他削减服务为“愚弄选民”的评论文章,可是福特并没有大兴抵制。
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因为人家说到点子上了! 看看51就知道他愚弄了多少人!
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回复 kernelcore:What's your point? Are you accusing Toronto Star did not "说到点子上" 🙂 ?
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支持伏特!
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尽管你支持福特,我们也向你提出抗议!因为你把我们福特哥写成“伏特加了”,4个字,错了2个字!
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honeymoon is over, folks
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民选出来大都会市长和新闻媒体开战,这可能还是加拿大历史上破天荒头一次。👏
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抵制多伦多星报对华人有利, 多伦多星报的种族主义社论欠华人一个道歉.没准象2006年华人得到华人人头税道歉那样, 多少年努力会换来一个应得的道歉.
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加拿大老张,今天又正好休息,又来逗大家玩了?
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不管怎么说, 不少华人反感多伦多星报对其种族主义社论拒不道歉. 华人抵制多伦多星报的想法和福特要抵制多伦多星报是同一战线. 虽然目的有区别. 但行动类似, 支持抵制多伦多星报. 敌人的敌人就是朋友!
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人家福特猜不稀罕你那同一战线呢,福特曰:“亚洲人像x一样”,人家能与x同一战线?别自作多情。
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回复 扳大轮:👍️
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回复 扳大轮:福特说了那句话, 华人抗议了, 他也在市议会道歉了. 从华人的角度看, 这事就算完了. 现代史上伤害华人的多了, 道歉还要继续, 什么时候算结束? 相反, 多伦多星报发表针对亚裔的种族主义社论, 其影响比福特的那句话大得多吧, 全国最大报纸的头版头条社论. 那么多亚裔人士/团体(也包括华人)抗议, 要求多伦多星报道歉. 可是多伦多星报一年多过去了也不道歉! 好象你很受用, 不在乎多伦多星报不道歉, 只关心道了歉的福特. 道理上讲不通嘛. 难道伤害华人了还分是谁干的, 再区别对待? 别学贵族工会的, 成天胡搅蛮缠, 为了高薪的铁饭碗什么下三烂的事都干.
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It is such a simple thing: Ford can't put his personal views ahead of his duty as an elected official to treat everyone equally. It is outrageous that he would treat the media and others who would dare to insult their childish sensibilities like this But it is so typical of those small minded people do small minded, mean spirited things, and this is one of them.
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单看这帖真觉得多伦多不象加拿大的地盘,有那个年代的味道。
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大陆国移的政治素养真的有待提高。连受过高等教育的群体都是这样,难怪共产党不给你们普选权利,真的人手一张选票,连大学生们都不会理性对待,何况没怎么受过教育的人了,只会沦为别人利用的工具。 怪谁?中国大陆缺失这样的政治氛围太久了,大家依旧满脑子文革遗毒。 这件事情上我不评论谁对谁错,仅仅对众跟贴者发表看法。说实在的,观点实在偏激得厉害,不上大雅之堂。
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有个歇后语,不知道您可明白?孔老二的裤头--装圣人蛋。
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一个宣扬种族主义的报纸, 还抱怨别人抵制它? 太搞笑了吧?
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AN OPEN LETTER A Call to Eliminate Anti-Asian Racism November 23, 2010 We, the undersigned, believe that the “Too Asian”? article in the Maclean’smagazine and the “Asian students suffering for success” article in the Toronto Star newspaper, published on November 10, 2010, worked to racially profile and stereotype Asian Canadians as perpetual foreigners in Canada. These articles served to reinforce anti-Asian resentment and antagonism by raising anxieties over Canada’s changing demographics and the emergence of China and India as global powers. Both media outlets generated binary “us” versus “them” distinctions between white and Asian Canadians, consequently inciting racial antipathy and division, instead of fostering a constructive dialogue on diversity and integration. The articles symbolize the failure of Maclean’s and the Toronto Starto uphold their journalistic and corporate social responsibility. The damaging impact of racial stereotyping and antagonism is far-reaching, not just in the realms of media, business, education, workplace, and the society at large, but also to the targeted ethno-cultural individuals and communities. Maclean’s and the Toronto Star recycled historical and ongoing depictions of Asians as “yellow and brown perils” that threaten the Canadian social order. These media depictions remind us of past anti-Asian government legislation, programs, and public thinking. The Head Tax and Immigration Exclusion laws, the Continuous Journey regulations, and the World War II Internment targeted the Chinese, South Asian, and Japanese Canadian communities, respectively. In 1979 the CTV television news series W5portrayed Canadian citizens and permanent residents of Asian descent as “foreigners,” allegedly taking over Canadian educational institutions. We see Maclean’sand the Toronto Staras reinforcing a long and deeply ingrained history of anti-Asian racial anxiety that has led to bigoted profiling and discrimination of Asian Canadians. The media’s racial distinction of “us” versus “them” works within a troubling understanding of Canada in which white people or those of European descent are considered the sole rightful citizens and beneficiaries of the nation. Such an understanding makes it difficult to conceive of Canadian universities as educational institutions where Asians as well as Aboriginal peoples and other communities of colour, such as African, Caribbean, Latin American, and Middle Eastern peoples, can also belong. Racialized individuals and communities face challenges to their claims of belonging when certain institutions and entitlements are already deemed as not for them. The media often portray Asian Canadians in homogeneous ways and fail to account for diversity within the group. They do not distinguish among Asians who are Canadian-born, naturalized citizens, newcomer immigrants, or international students. They neglect to consider the varying educational circumstances of Asian Canadians based on income, class, gender, religion, and language. They lump all Asian Canadians together regardless of their ancestral background, whether they are from China, India, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Vietnam, or Sri Lanka. Since Maclean’sand the Toronto Stardepicted Asian Canadians as a homogeneous model minority, they failed to acknowledge the various structural roots of the academic and social struggles that many Asian Canadian students experience. They also missed seeing how community groups are addressing barriers that hinder their goals and pathways for genuine settlement, integration, and well-being in this country. Although Asian Canadians have been and continue to be discriminated against by racist media portrayals, government policies, and some public opinion, they also have been actively recruited for their labour and capital. Their labour has been crucial to the development of this nation, ranging from the construction of the Canadian Pacific Railway 125 years ago to the recruitment of temporary workers and live-in caregivers of children and the elderly over the last 25 years. Their financial resources have been keenly sought after, as they are considered economic migrants who could bring investment and entrepreneurial capital, and as international students whose high tuition fees augment the inadequate funding of public education. Many Canadian universities aggressively reach out to and recruit students from Asia. As such, Asian Canadians are trapped in a perpetual racist contradiction: they are both wanted and unwanted in this country. So long as they provide labour, capital, and expertise to the Canadian economy, they are wanted. However, when they assert their entitlement to human rights, genuine integration, and even education in Canada, their sense of belonging is challenged. Since the media – as well as educational institutions – have perpetrated racial stereotyping, oppression, and antagonism, they need to change their policies and practices in order to help realize the promise of a truly multicultural Canada. Therefore, we demand that Maclean’s and the Toronto Star: · must issue a comprehensive and unqualified public apology to Asian Canadians; · must engage in public consultations to address racial profiling and stereotyping via their media outlets; · must implement measurable corporate and editorial anti-racism policies in consultation with relevant community constituents, and must publish the results of their policies annually; · and, must implement employment equity programs to diversify their corporate and editorial boards and frontline personnel. We also demand that Canadian institutions of higher education: · must develop academic programs and courses that explicitly address racism in Canada and the historical and contemporary experiences, representations, and contributions of Asian Canadians; · must undertake and publish campus climate surveys of racialized students, staff, and faculty; · and, must establish advocacy and support offices for racialized students, staff, and faculty. We sign this open letter in solidarity with principles and struggles to eliminate anti-Asian racism. Sincerely, Canadian coalition of community partners to eliminate anti-Asian racism National Anti-Racism Council of Canada Estella Muyinda, [email protected]
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This is what published on Star: "Mayor Rob Ford to Toronto: Don’t read the Star!", and this was what Ford said: “I have no respect for the Toronto Star whatsoever. If people want to read a paper, pick up the Globe, Post or Sun. That’s what I encourage people to do”. See the difference? Selective reporting, that is Toronto Star.
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呵呵, 历史是经常重复! 2010年一个华人办的讲座谈论孩子的学习和上大学的问题, 本来是好意的讨论. 到了Toronto Star 嘴里, 就被歪曲成那篇臭名昭著的"asian students suffering for success"社论.
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回复 淘声依旧:原来还不知道Toronto Star是加拿大最大的报纸. 看来种族主义言论在Toronto Star还很有市场, 值得警惕.
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"在本地某家英文媒体的评论版上,两天之内的评论多达700条。": It's Toronto Star, is it?
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No. Globe Mail.
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回复 小牧:版主好 建议版主换个头像, 不然我还以为是福特来了呢?😆
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不管报纸是什么背景和政治立场观点的,作为市长应该有接受批评和监督的肚量,跟媒体作对是错误的,也会得不偿失。不知道福特那么大肚子里装的是什么?猪油?
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多伦多星报我几乎是天天看,但有很多版面我是不常读的。我多是读主版(A),大多市版,商(经济)版和生活版。其他的车版,地产版,体育版很少看,几乎多是一翻就过,甚至不翻就扔到垃圾桶。是有点浪费。可又不能单订。 本来网上看也能看到新闻,习惯读了,有点难改。其他两种报(太阳报和邮报我不读,起码很少读)。个人爱好罢了,抵制又有什么用呢?
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多伦多星报的时事和评论版, 党派观点太强, 颇有自由党机关报的味道. 相对来说, 太阳报和邮报比较中立, 党派观点弱得多了. 邮报也批评过福特的一些政策, 但还能相安无事. 大家在国内也是人民日报看的少, 其他地方晚报等看的多, 不愿意被洗脑.
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回复 淘声依旧:其实多伦多的那一份报都有自己偏向性。星报和太阳报就是唱“反调”的对头报。 我喜欢星报是里面可以有一两页可以登读者大家的评论。 有意见都可以提出来,登出来也让大家再评论。 当然我们看报的也应该有自己“能力”,信和不信,赞同或不赞同都是从报纸里的字里行间找出自己的信息和结论。
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