CTTV：移民厅长谈华人英语项目[视频]

最初由 被封 发布： You see, how tax money is wasted? You shouldn't support the $250,000 funding to CPAC. We can't generalize from one mistake to conclude all social programs are a waste of resources. I don't know Zheng Huang and CPAC, but support the 250K funded to CPAC based on the following logic: 1. According to government practice, the amount of 32 millions must be dispersed to wrap up the fiscal year. If the Chinese community won't get a share, in fact a small share, the money will go to others. 2. The Putonghua speaking Chinese community really needs some support. 3. 250K is a good start for CPAC. It is like a test. If CPAC does a good job, there is hope for continuous core funding from the government. If CPAC doesn't do a good job, its future will be "hopeless". Why don't we give CPAC a chance? As a member of the Chinese community, you and I have the obligation watching and monitoring their performance.

最初由 Sedona 发布： xp: I have to disagree with you this time. Lately, there is an English project for Chinese immigrants: First Language First by Jerry supported by one of the "famous" Chinese community agency and funded by the Ontario government. There are lots of issues: 1. Jerry's method is not proven, but the promotion is the promise to turn our English capacity from second language to first language. Your English could be the best amongst 51ers, however, yours still is far from that of a native speaker. .... There is only one method to learn good English: immersion in the local culture. I don't believe in any quick fix. You see, how tax money is wasted? You shouldn't support the $250,000 funding to CPAC.

There is only one method to learn good English: immersion in the local culture. I don't believe in any quick fix. 说得对极了。那些项目多半以赢利为目的，过分夸大其词。样本的选择有偏差，结果也是不可靠的。地道的语言是用出来的，不是短期研究出来的。 😁

最初由 Sedona 发布： xp: There is only one method to learn good English: immersion in the local culture . I don't believe in any quick fix.

xp: I have to disagree with you this time. Lately, there is an English project for Chinese immigrants: First Language First by Jerry supported by one of the "famous" Chinese community agency and funded by the Ontario government. There are lots of issues: 1. Jerry's method is not proven, but the promotion is the promise to turn our English capacity from second language to first language. Your English could be the best amongst 51ers, however, yours still is far from that of a native speaker. Jerry's is a misrepresentation. 2. If Jerry's method is proven, he will have a huge market and in a few years, he will become a millionaire. There is no way for the government to subsidize a business. If he becomes popular, we will see lots of Jerry's schools in Toronto the latest before snowfall. 3. The method of selecting students is questionable. They have to pass a writing test and a face to face interview. I bet those selected should have a reasonable language foundation. This cohort is a biased sample. I would like to challenge all those graduates from Jerry's to find out if they can achieve the first language English capacity. This project is a very bad precedence that the government is subsidizing a business at its infancy stage. Its effectiveness remains questionable. There is only one method to learn good English: immersion in the local culture. I don't believe in any quick fix.

至少在做可以看得见的实事，任何真正帮助新移民的人和事，我都坚决表示支持。别忘了，我们这些新来的四年后都会变成公民的，在艰辛的移民之路上任何滴水之恩都将被牢牢记住。

说明移民政策过于宽松，导致政府不得不花费更多的纳税人钱财来培训大量不合格的技术移民。

顶一下，这是干实事的。