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道明银行:未来十年房市 多、温涨最多

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全球一直在疯狂超发货币,纸都越来越贵,房子会跌价?没钱的人永远生活在梦想,不差钱的主银行给房贷都不要,好区出来房子隔夜就没,现实就是这样。
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这里真热闹。。。哈哈。。。 房价不是你想跌他就跌的。至少几年内不会大跌。大家等着瞧。谁敢和我打个赌?
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今后20年,整天提心吊胆的同租客打交道,不停的修理出租房的各种物件,剪草,除雪,还要操心贷款利率,房屋保险。最后税前回报率才落个4.4%。如果这个预测准确的话,只有脑子被门缝挤了的人才去做房地产投资。
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五,六十万的小freehold走真快啊。真不明白这么多第一次买的,早干嘛去了,非得现在扎堆。换房倒是不错的时机。
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加拿大财政部长真能胡说八道. Right now 5 year rates range from 2.59% to 2.89% depending on the lender and T&C. Lenders include: 1. Td 2.89% 2. Scotia Bank 2.79% (over 500k), 2.84% under 500k 3. Street/FN 2.79% 4. Merix 2.77% 5. RMG 2.74% 6. Industrial Alliance 2.59% - 30 days only,
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Lost decade ahead for Canadian housing (ZT) TD predicts two per cent yearly growth After years of growth, economists say the real estate boom is over and predict Canadian housing prices to flatline over the next decade. Meanwhile, another report warns that a severe economic shock, such as the kind that hit Japan in the early 1990s and California and Nevada in 2006, could knock Canadian housing prices down by 44 per cent, according to a formula devised by Moody's Investors Service to rate securities linked to mortgages. TD Economics's study, Long-Run Rate of Return for Canadian Home Prices, predicts a "string of lacklustre performances" over the next few years. The annual rate of return for real estate will be about two per cent over the next decade, meaning that prices will simply match the pace of inflation. "There is some overvaluation in the housing market - home prices have moved away from their underlying economic fundamentals - and that overvaluation has to unwind," said Sonya Gulati, senior economist at TD. This adjustment, however, will be gradual, she added. "With the U.S., it was a housing market bubble and all of a sudden, a pin came and pricked it. It completely burst. The way you want to think about the Canadian housing market is that there's a balloon that's been inflated but instead of a pin coming and pricking the balloon, the air is going to be slowly let out." Canadian residential home prices grew by an average of 5.4 per cent a year between 1980 and 2012, climbing about seven per cent a year in the last decade. The market has cooled over the last six months and will continue its slide over the next few years as tighter mortgage rules, modest economic growth and higher interest rates push prices downward. The economists project a 3.5 per cent annual rate of return on real estate beyond 2015. However, Moody's Investors Service analyzed housing prices in the event of a pin coming along. A 44 per cent decline would be driven primarily by the phenomenal upswing in Canadian home prices over the past decade, Moody's said. Canada joins Spain, as well as the United Kingdom and Australia, in the ratings agency's assessment of countries where growth in housing prices over the past 10 years has driven their values away from sustainable market fundamentals and into "overheated" territory. "As with Australia, Spain and the U.K., we expect house prices in Canada to suffer the most due to the misalignment of current house prices with historic fundamentals," the ratings agency said. Moody's is the second ratings agency in as many weeks to seek input on a proposal to change the methodology used to analyze securities linked to mortgages. Last week, London and New York-based Fitch Ratings unveiled a proposed two-step model that reduces home prices to a "sustainable" value based on a number of factors including data provided by Canadian banks. It then further subjects the homes to a "stressed market" value decline assumption. Fitch said Canadian home prices are overvalued by about 20 per cent. Ratings agencies came under harsh criticism in the aftermath of the financial crisis of 2008 for what was perceived as a failure to predict the U.S. housing market meltdown. Since then, there has been an attempt to strike a balance of thorough analysis with timely analysis, according to Grant Connor, an associate in equity research at National Bank Financial who previously worked on structured finance at Moody's. The model proposed by Moody's on Monday determines house price "stress" rates by looking at variable factors such as house price and income growth over 10 years, and fixed factors such as monetary policy. The "variable" analysis assesses how much current house prices have departed from "sustainable" market fundamentals. The assumption is that, in the event of a severe economic shock, expected demand that has been baked into current house prices will not materialize. In Canada, growth in house prices over the past 10 years has "far outstripped" growth in incomes, according to Moody's. "Think of it like an elastic (being stretched)," explains Connor of National Bank Financial. "The snap back is going to be a lot harder." RateSupermarket.ca's experts predict that mortgage rates will remain unchanged for the foreseeable future. This month, BMO brought back its 2.99 per cent five-year fixed-rate mortgage as concerns of a cooling housing market has banks becoming increasingly competitive. http://www.thestarphoenix.com/business/Lost+decade+ahead+Canadian+housing/8082238/story.html
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Moody`s 今天出报告,说加拿大房事要跌44% 真他妈的牛。
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Moody可牛了,加拿大房价再涨,负债率再提高,就给加拿大的金融机构继续降级。呵呵...
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加拿大房事的冬天要来了。
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经过认真分析加拿大的情况, 尽量不把钱投机在房产上面, 自住房要早买,越早越好, 如果有足够的余钱做15年以上的长线投资, 房产就是一个好的选择, 中短期投机还有很多其他好的途径, 我觉得在股票市场买基金就不错。 该帖已经同步到51微博 新豬 的微博
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前几年的房市疯涨显然不可能重现了,市场正在为前几年造成的泡沫埋单,这样的环境,早买有什么好? 想做房产投资,还是考虑美国市场吧,那里资产价格更合理。现在,在美国投资房产最多的外国人就是加拿大人(其次是中国人)。加拿大这样离谱的房价,要很长时间消化。
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Are you guys in the house hunting market currently or just post by your own imagination? Do you know there are offer bidings everywhere right now? Do you know the house price has gone up quite a lot since Jan 2013? 如果不知道,就别在这里瞎JB扯.
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And why are you so angry lol...
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我是个不相信政府、银行这些人预测的人。我不喜欢预测中短期走势,虽然我相信我比他们绝大多数要看得准得多。 但有一点是基本面上的。。。从长期来看,只要一个城市不断地有新人加入,而城区用于建筑的土地资源也很紧张,这个地区的房子不可能不涨。供需市场决定一切,连政府都无能为力的。 该帖已经同步到51微博 克 飞 的微博
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非常中肯的分析。从看跌以来,我这个小区卖房的几乎绝迹,上MLS搜搜想找个参考市场价都没有。原来看邻居卖房总好像自己荷包也鼓了不少。现在想知道瘪了多少, 却发现业主们惜售了,市场真的冷下来了。
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回复 磨蹭一辈子:市场冷却是政府行为,但是只要买方需求还存在,一年或几年的平均交易量还应该是上升的。现在的成交量小只能说明以后成交量有一个集中放大的时候。 这时候成交量是放在高位还是低位,我不想说,每个人自己考量市场的好。 该帖已经同步到51微博 克 飞 的微博
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房价不跌的主要原因有三:一、如大多地区每年新增人口10多万人,需几万个家庭单位的房屋需要满足;二、通过货币贬值来发展经济促进增长,实现第二次再分配,是全世界每个国家每个政府必须选择的主要手段;三、全球化,形成你中有我,我中有你的经济一体化模式,各国明的暗的促使其货币贬值,造成长期的低利率。
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房价不跌的主要原因有三:一、如大多地区每年新增人口10多万人,需几万个家庭单位的房屋需要满足;二、通过货币贬值来发展经济促进增长,实现第二次再分配,是全世界每个国家每个政府必须选择的主要手段;三、全球化,形成你中有我,我中有你的经济一体化模式,各国明的暗的促使其货币贬值,造成长期的低利率。
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房价不跌的主要原因有三:一、如大多地区每年新增人口10多万人,需几万个家庭单位的房屋需要满足;二、通过货币贬值来发展经济促进增长,实现第二次再分配,是全世界每个国家每个政府必须选择的主要手段;三、全球化,形成你中有我,我中有你的经济一体化模式,各国明的暗的促使其货币贬值,造成长期的低利率。
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房价不跌的主要原因有三:一、如大多地区每年新增人口10多万人,需几万个家庭单位的房屋需要满足;二、通过货币贬值来发展经济促进增长,实现第二次再分配,是全世界每个国家每个政府必须选择的主要手段;三、全球化,形成你中有我,我中有你的经济一体化模式,各国明的暗的促使其货币贬值,造成长期的低利率。
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新增人口,也不是都拿着大把的钞票没处花,多伦多失业率高企,一半人口处于不稳定状态......,这种情况,只能导致对廉租房的需求大增,结果是纳税人的负担进一步加重,对高房价的承受力更弱。 至于你说的第二第三,不就是指通货膨胀嘛。通货膨胀的表现,是不仅价格上涨,工资也上涨(因为钱不值钱了嘛)。可你看看加拿大,工资涨了吗?涨了多少?要是过去十几年工资也像房价一样翻番,那我同意你的说法,可现在是只有房价涨,工资不见涨,你拿什么支撑高房价?
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回复 西风纵:按你的分析,希望你15年后再买房
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回复 51网支部书记:我有房,只是考虑换房问题。对于像我这样的,以及投资的,在现在这种房市强弩之末的形势下,多观望一下,没坏处。至于刚需的,等不及的,那没办法,只要负担得起,就买吧。这也是我一直的观点。
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至少过去十年里,每天都有人买房,抢offer, 还没听说有人跳楼。 也有人每天都认为今天的房价最高,明天买才不是傻冒。不过也没看到有人等不到明天跳楼,只是不停跳脚。
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所以过去十年创造了加拿大历史上最大的房地产泡沫。
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回复 西风纵:睡自己家泡沫里,好过睡别人家地下室
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回复 西风纵:最大的泡沫就是你手上的厕纸😆
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符合我的预测:大多伦多地区房价在未来2~3年将较平稳,热门地段还会有微升,冷 门地段有降, 总体持平或略升。不会有跳跃性大跌。
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好像不是这样,以下引用原文:
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如果你恨谁就劝他赶紧趁现在房价高位买房而且抢offer
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有相信的就赶紧投资买房吧,赶紧啊,晚了就麻烦了 该帖已经同步到51微博 让我们团购吧 的微博
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那些嘴上忽悠要涨的,都在等着别人高位接棒帮他们解套呢。比如Poker,呵呵。。。
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回复 西风纵:你个大白痴:看看这里:: 移民需求量大 有利多市、温市 有点令人吃惊的是,道明银行报告预测,今后十年,温哥华、多伦多、维多利亚(Victoria)、爱民顿(Edmonton)和卡加利(Calgary)房价涨幅将继续高于加拿大的其他地方。虽然最近数月温哥华和多伦多房价下跌,但仍被视为被炒高了一截。道明银行的报告分析说,温哥华和多伦多两地每年吸引的移民多,对住宅需求量高,因而继续推高房价。而亚伯达省的爱民顿和卡加利有油元支持,人口及收入增长均高于全加平均值,也为房市提供了支撑力。 亚历山大指出,影响房价趋势两个最大因素是人口增长和家庭组成,这两大因素都对温哥华和多伦多房市有利。
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回复 poker8899:你个白痴二逼,除了copy&paste这点体力活,你丫脑子里就全是地沟油了。呵呵... 移民需求大,也得看负担能力。温哥华那里大款云集的地方,房价都在降,你丫的移民需求理论咋不灵了呢?
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应当马上肋奥夫这个亚历山大。 该帖已经同步到51微博 紫玉龙山 的微博
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