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把专业人士变无业游民:谁最适合移民?

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很高兴能读到各位朋友的意见和辩论。我学到了很多东西。不管怎样,移民的生活是不容易的。保持乐观最重要。祝各位多保重身体,多挣钱。恭喜发财!
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别那么悲观, 技术移民过了最初的黑暗期, 找到合适的工作, 就又回到原居地的生活质量了, 加上加拿大空气好, 水好. 但人也老了
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阿凡提评价的精辟,尤其是对8号,你凭什么说全中国人都在混日子?你没资格去评价全中国人。 捞钱=赚钱,理所当然,每个人都要努力工作养活自己,不像8号有其他族人包养,自己是中国种都给忘了。
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有欺上瞒下、溜须拍马、见人说人话见鬼说鬼话的能力,在中国大陆能如鱼得水。这种最不适合加拿大!
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确实, 不是所有中国人都适合来加拿大, 毕竟加拿大和中国的差别还是挺大的: 社会制度, 文化传统都不一样.特别是已经在中国奋斗了很多年, 有一定社会基础和年龄比较大的人. 有些人因为在国内不如意, 就把中国说的一无是处, 也没有必要. 尽管中国与加拿大相比还有一定不小的差距, 但是中国是有很多问题, 加拿大也有自己的问题, 也不完美. 不是说来了加拿大以后就没有烦恼了, 就到了天坛了.
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在我和身边的贪官朋友聊天时,我了解到不少人都很后悔选择了移民。在原居地,他们是贪官,贪?的医生、律师、有很多黑?和女人送上门的大学教授、用?买来的高级工程师、银行主管,来到加拿大后,他们成了无业游民,没女玩了。没黑?了,没二奶了,天啊,日子咋过啊?
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你的心态属于第一类适合居住加拿大的人。
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要有欺上瞒下、溜须拍马、见人说人话见鬼说鬼话的能力,才能在中国大陆如鱼得水。这也是一种能力和境界。
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几个马甲你都穿帮,所以只好满腔仇恨的移民了,然后又想回去
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单纯从工作、职业发展角度,在国内混得好的肯定是不适合移民,因为你原先获得良好发展的基本要素不存在了:学历、经验、语言、人脉。。。
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除非在国内就是混日子的或是投机取巧混到高级职位的,否则来加十年想不过好日子都难。有没有真本事,移民一把就知道了。当然喽,有本事回国在职场上会更滋润。
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“混日子”是一种境界,“投机取巧”是人的本能,甚至是智者行为。傻乎乎的人是不会投机并取巧的。 所谓“真本事”要对照自己的要求,只求吃饱喝足外加几个零花钱的人,一般都会觉得自己很有能耐。
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回复 GTAM:哲学啊,怪不得中国全民混日子、投机取巧,全民智者。
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那些人也没有什么好日子混。他们需要有欺上瞒下、溜须拍马、见人说人话见鬼说鬼话一般人没有的能力。
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别那么悲观, 技术移民过了最初的黑暗期, 找到合适的工作, 就又回到原居地的生活质量了, 加上加拿大空气好, 水好.
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"在与身边的技术移民朋友聊天时,我了解到不少人都很后悔选择了移民。在原居地,他们是医生、律师、大学教授、高级工程师、银行主管,来到加拿大后,他们成了无业游民,仿佛从巅峰瞬时跌落谷底。" 开始出现这种状况, 多半是因为他又聋又哑, 几年之后还这样,不是笨就是懒。
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Kwame McKenzie应该直接说明他的意图:在出生前就应该进行精神测试,把那些低下的(包括他自己的黑人民族)都铲除。将要本土出生的不许出生,将要移民的不许移民。 希望51的小编给出其原文,以免误解其原意。
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对,是应该给出其原文,以免误解其原意。 从他的这篇自述看来,他也希望英国政府多关注和支持包括他自己的黑人民族病人的治疗、预防和生活状况。 他不至于从英国移民加拿大后,就开始踩压包括他自己黑人民族在内的移民了吗?
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他指出在英国出生的黑人患病率也高出英国的平均水平18倍,由此可见这与移不移民有什么关系?他的自述与他的文章自相矛盾。 希望51的小编给出其原文,以免误解其原意。
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移民是为了实现一命两生的愿望。 我的移民经验就是两条:1. 要努力提高自身的能力;2. 对不适宜移民的生存环境的状况要抗争,不要认命。
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当然,还有一类人是病人:在加拿大享受免费医疗,谁遇上都会产生感激和庆幸。
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还有一类人是加拿大不给进的:性病人。
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以我十年北美生活经验来看,最适合加拿大的中国移民只有两类: 一类是穷人,原先越穷,越会喜爱加拿大。(想想现在我在肉铺里好歹也是个资深员工,而那个国内小有名气的大提琴手还在后间割肉,归我指使。这种翻身感怎么就成了现实了呢?幸福感油然而生。) 另一类是在国内混得不怎么样的人群,无论职业生涯不畅、生意状况不佳、人际相处不顺或被警察瞄上的,还是家庭不稳及一本二本考试无望的。(告别、割断过去,让人有一种释放感。)
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希望那个“肉铺里好歹也是个资深员工”不是你。
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回复 以柔克刚:也希望不是你。
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回复 GTAM:没有你的那些深刻体会能是吗?
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如果再看看其人的自述又会得出什么结论呢? Being black in Britain is bad foryour mental healthThere is anepidemic of psychotic illness in those of African and Caribbean origin, so whyare we doing nothing to stop it?Kwame McKenziehttp://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/apr/02/comment.healthhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/apr/02/comment.health I have hadproblems being a psychiatrist since the first day I worked in the Maudsleyhospital. The Maudsley is in south London, and every day I saw more and moreyoung people of African and Caribbean origin developing serious mentalillnesses. As a young black man I identified with them, found it disturbing,and vowed to do something about it: so I started research in the area.Unfortunately, that made things worse rather than better; partly because thestatistics are so chilling, and partly because of the response to them. Over the last 30 years there havebeen 20 studies showing that people of Caribbean and African origin have anincreased risk of being treated for serious mental illnesses such asschizophrenia and mania. The increased rate is of epidemic proportions -between five and 12 times greater than for white people. And if anything, it isgetting worse. On March 31 each year, a one-daycensus is carried out for all Britain's psychiatric inpatients, and the resultsof last year's census have just been published. Of the 32,000 people inhospital, those who defined themselves as black Caribbean and black Africanwere over-represented by three- or fourfold. But one other group stood out -those who defined themselves as "black other". The vast majority ofthis group are young, British-born black people, and they were 18 times morelikely to be in hospital than the British average. It is always prudent to treatstatistics with caution. Hospital admission reflects not only the amount ofillness in a community but also the ability of the community to cope with thatillness. For instance, in highly supportive, tight-knit communities, morepeople are treated at home. But it is hard to believe that this increased rateis not at least in part due to a true increase in the amount of illness. Thisis backed up by years of research and a recent international review, whichconcluded that migrants are more likely to develop mental illness. But the riskis doubled in black migrants to white countries, and the risk is increasedagain in their children. It seems that it is not about migration alone or beingblack - it is about being black in a white country. The rate of serious mentalillness in the Caribbean and in Africa is not high, but the rate of mentalillness in Britons of Caribbean and African origin is. You can recover from a psychoticillness, but many people have long-term problems. The cost to the individualwith a psychotic illness, to their family and carers and wider society, isimmense. Most sufferers are unemployed and on benefit; there is an increasedrisk of suicide; life expectancy is lower; and their children are more likelyto develop a mental illness and be taken into care. In one study, 50% of carerswere clinically depressed. This undermines their ability to support others. Psychotic illnesses start youngand persist. Taking the cost of benefits and loss of tax revenue into account,mental illness is the single most expensive part of the health budget. Those ofAfrican and Caribbean origin are already disproportionately living in povertyand struggling to offer a social system that supports and develops the young.How does a community stop itself from disintegrating under such a burden? We have some of the best mentalhealth services in the world but we are nowhere near a cure for psychosis.Where there is no cure, prevention is important, and where there is anincreased rate of illness in a group they should be the target for prevention.But we have no prevention strategy. We have an excellent plan forimproving mental health services for black and minority ethnic groups, but weneed to go further. If we knew that one group in society were 10 times morelikely to develop lung cancer, we would focus on them - perhaps with a targetedanti-smoking strategy. We would not just make lung cancer treatment servicesmore equitable. Though we will not be able toprevent all psychosis, we should be able to prevent some of it. We know thatpsychotic illnesses are associated with poverty, poor education, racism, livingin a city, poor obstetric care, head injuries or brain infection when you areyoung, childhood trauma, family break-up, and cannabis use. We know thattargeting childhood and adolescence is important. Prevention of mental illness inblack communities is the sort of complex problem that should attract ahigh-level government inquiry that leads to action. I am used to hearingpoliticians say that doing nothing is not an option. This is an area where thephrase has real meaning. The high rates of mental illness in people ofCaribbean and African origin are not going to go away. If anything, theirlegacy will blight a generation and the impact will be felt by us all. Mental health services have beenaccused of institutional racism over their treatment of black patients. Thegovernment has asserted that this is not a useful term. But the lack of acoherent prevention strategy is an institutional problem that needsinstitutions, not individuals, to act. I have moved from south London tonorth London but, 17 years on, I am still watching young people of Caribbeanand African origin coming through the door with serious mental illnesses whichtear their families apart. We are still doing nothing to stop it. · Kwame McKenzie is professor of mental health andsociety at the University of Central Lancashire and a senior lecturer intranscultural psychiatry at University College London [email protected]
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加拿大需要劳动力,移民自身的钱财多少无所谓,受教育程度高低无关紧要,只要身体好,肯干活就可以了。这是加国政策,也是事先告知。认命、抗命,你自己看着办。
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如果把那些受职业保护养尊处优的人们置于移民的同等条件,看看他们与移民的患病率是不是一样?
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这篇文章就是本末倒置。 其实导致精神病的因素很多,移民只是其中之一。但是移民的患病率并没有原土著人高,此人怎么不作出解释?
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