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俺早就给老唐定过性了:老唐不是骗子,而是精神分裂症患者,俗称精神病。 如果老唐去做个鉴定,确诊为“精神病”,不要说行骗,就是杀了人也可以全身而退,无罪释放。 从老唐自己不主动承认自己是精神病这一点就能反证老唐确确实实是患了精神病。 联合国是聋子的耳朵,摆设而已。它没有执法的能力,只能做做调停而已。 大国与小国有矛盾,联合国一调停,小国没了;大国与大国有矛盾,联合国一调停,联合国没了; 联合国要是受理老唐的案子,老潘就该进精神病院了。
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垃圾人品说别人是垃圾,什么世道(笑话)
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1,如果老唐真的说"上诉联合国"这句话,那他就是大法盲,与克非同级. 2,如果克非把老唐这骗人的集资也叫成功且值得克飞赞赏且同情的话,这正是辫子国文化中自古以来就存在的"羡慕那些坑蒙拐骗成功者,且视其为精明强干之人"现象的明证.
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还是克飞克大白胡比较体谅老唐,这叫惺惺相惜,克飞克大白胡与老唐有很多相似的地方
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人家老唐起码是一个集资高手,只不过用错了地方.。。。 且这种情况下也没有倒, 没有怎么自怨自艾, 这是可圈可点的.。。。你呢, 就是51网上一个骂骂咧咧, 口吐白沫的肮脏白痴! 人间垃圾.
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回复 克 飞:克飞克大白胡,曾经有网友把你与老唐比,俺就说了,那是侮辱老唐,人家老唐不管咋地也是骗界成功人士,振臂一呼,也是有一帮人跟着去吃包子地,而你就是一废物,你一个废物,有啥好叽歪地
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回复 xuxi:XuXu,我已经多次警告过你不要给网友乱起带诲辱性的外号了.。。只不过看着你应是年长之人, 没有太怎么而已.。。。但如果你屡教不改,得寸进尺,言必克大白胡二百五自焚党的, 就别怪我不讲情面了.
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如果联合国败诉还可以告到太空去,希望老唐到火星上去开拓市场,火星人人傻钱多速去。
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老唐,不能给毛主席他老人家丢脸,一定要告到联合国,联合国还搞不赢,那肯定是人类出毛病了,咱还有天国最后一搏,咱毛主席的家乡人永远站在老唐一边。战天斗地永不认罪,让输钱脑残们吐血去吧。嘿嘿。
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胳膊扭不过大腿,唐炜臻申请允许上诉被拒。 唐炜臻一个人正在面对几十个律师和法官,面对强大的政府力量。 不是势均力敌,而是蚂蚁拌大象。没有中间力量。真正的胜利需要来自人民群众的支持和参与, 今天是决定很多人的命运的一天,特别是我,关系到大家的极大利益, 证券会,律师,法官和投资人,大家都在等最高法院的消息。 相当于他们死,输,我活,我赢,关系到法庭的名誉和声誉的问题,权力在他们手里。他们要维护司法的完整性和自己的尊严,面子。 他们目无国法,破坏司法程序搞我。 人们普遍以为他们是公平的,其实不然。
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老唐:你自己认为你很委屈但是你想过你的家人,信任过你的投资人:你的家人被你折腾的。。,你的投资人的 钱被你玩儿没了。。1。你的家人被你弄的无处惜身 2。你的投资人的钱多是养老和养家糊口。 有两点是铁的事实:你没有合法的经营执照,你欺骗投资人---明明已经亏得没钱,还说赚钱。还搞什么“操盘,实战演示”骗人,我看过 你的演示:无论如何,你的演技和投资技巧都是“狗屎”。。。。 法院判决绝对正确,你还是从了吧。投资,打官司,演技你都不是那块料。。
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老唐现在这个样子, 大家就算了吧,,,毕竟投资失败的人也很多, 就是世界顶级的里曼兄弟, 花旗银行,美林证券, 不是一样输得一败涂地吗? 二大评级公司穆迪和标普不是也在金融危机之前看错CDS,酿成甚至美国的养老金大量缩水吗? 投资有风险, 前面信他的投资者自己也是白痴.。。老唐的问题不在于投资失败上, 失败的投资基金全球甚至超过一半.。。最大的问题老唐的操作没有得到政府的合法许可, 也就是一个执照的问题.。。。如果有执照, 同样把你们的钱输光, 只要没有白纸黑字的保证(这也是不允许的, 除非人寿保险公司的专许产品, 连银行都不允许), 他法律上无罪.
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这个回复才是准确的。
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咋骗罪就是咋骗,不要瞎扯,无证违规是另外的罪名,他唐老鸭的罪名不是一项。
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这个唐,法院判的是诈骗,不是无照经营吧?法院判的是虚假误导投资,一场骗局,根本谈不上神马正常“亏损”吧?核心在于,唐过于自我膨胀,但技术不行,实力太差,结果穿帮露馅,败局完美收官! 假设换一个大侠,哈,这事也许就真做成了,但不会是唐。
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应该费尽千辛万苦逃回中国大陆, 然后名正言顺地申请政治避难, 给加拿大政府难堪。
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看来这个老唐还没疯,还分得清胳膊大腿的比例,这个老唐也就是一个典型知识分子的思路,自作聪明,想走捷径?以为可以“翻案”?一旦翻案,所有人都会立即对他另眼相看?哈,就像叫这个老唐改变不仁不义的本性,有可能吗?没有。所以一样,翻案?哈,没有可能。捷径,就更没有了。
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联合国不受理诈骗案。他应先搞清楚联合国是干嘛用的,好不好!疯子一名。
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就是一个大骗子,还这么得瑟
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人渣一个,丢尽国人的脸,还好意思叫屈?死都不认罪,确实像精神病。false believe, could be diagnosed as delusional disorder.
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哈哈, 好热闹啊! 以为发生了什么, 原来是闹剧. 俗话说:"醉汉不认酒钱", 骗子从来也不承认自己是骗子. 2008年前后, 多伦多出现了三个象老唐这样的所谓"投资失败人士",第 一个是邓跃文,第二个是杨均, 第三个是老唐. 邓跃文腿长,早就夹着钱包溜回大陆了, 杨均只在加拿大弄了个"10个月监禁", 据说还是监外执行的, 然后就溜回大陆享福去了,债主们也都寻他不见, 只剩下个老唐依然在坚守阵地, 而且还到处喊冤. 算了吧,你还冤呢, 那些损失了几十万的苦主冤不冤? 怎么没听他们到这里来申诉呢?
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"算了吧,你还冤呢, 那些损失了几十万的苦主冤不冤? 怎么没听他们到这里来申诉呢?" 投资损失是愿打愿挨, 一点儿也不冤, 甚至是活该. 当时信了老唐的, 也是因为贪心不足, 自找的. 过后还起诉人家老唐, 那就更是做人不厚道, 更不地道了.
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“大嘴巴”,我 操NNND, 本爷杨钧在加拿大多伦多,我不知道你何以知道我在中国享福。 是否我和你LP, 你姐 你妹关系特别,同床共枕了,所以你知道我在中国享福了? 我没有兑现给客户的承诺,你可以说我是骗子。我让那些爱我, 信我,跟我的人受罪, 可以说我是罪人。我的愚蠢行为害人害己,可以说我是饭桶。但我不是垃圾桶, 不是什么脏水都要往我身上泼。 如果你是我的债主,你可以采取任何你愿意采取的行动,(法庭要求我不能主动直接或间接和客户联系),你也可以打电话约我出来(6478188017)打一顿,插两刀,本爷保证不还手。(但会报警)。 如果你是拿着馒头准备沾血的看客,我温馨提醒你,人血馒头医不好你或你家人的痨病, 还是早点去看医生吧。 本人2010年8月底找到一份在中国的工作,工资3000加元(加拿大发, 全部用于还客户)。 5000人民币在中国发, 用于本人在中国的衣食住行。每天工作从早8点到晚12点。 几个月只是休息过两个周末。我不知道是否可以算是享福?我只是想尽量得到老板的更多赏识,可以升职加薪,可以更快还钱。然而, 这份工作因为我们某一记者大人的报道而失去。 我在干洗店,T&T超市, 汽车配件厂, 装修公司打过10-12元的labour。过去7年, 我过的是不堪回首的了无生趣的日子。这是享福吗?如果是,我真心祈求上天把这样的享福机会赐给“大嘴巴”。 09年5月, 我在法庭上作了5分钟的陈述, 除了向客户致歉和承认自己的过错,我没有为自己辩解一句。花了5000元律师费,只是让律师处理司法程序问题,没有让他为我辩护。我做错了,该打该罚我认。 警察经过几个月的调查,传媒广泛报道, 客户也向法庭和警察反映了他们的情况。在这样的情况下法庭做出了让“大嘴巴”们不满意的所谓轻判。难道是我杨某背景特别, 还是罪不当诛? 即使这样的轻判,我失去了多年辛苦打下的事业基础,失去了可能有很好发展的公司。失去了在社区多年建立的良好声誉。从高台上的成功人士变成了污泥中的骗子坏蛋。而我的家人也因为长期压力而患上癌症,难道对我的惩罚还不够吗?对我更多的惩罚和无中生有的羞辱有助于更快还钱吗? 我的罪行是什么?2008年下半年因为金融危机,我公司的保险理财业务亏损, 为客户投资亏损,资金周转困难,给赵姓客户的3张期票(5万左右)未能兑现而引发。 我是一个失败的投资管理人, 一个失败的公司老板。但我杨某从来没有故意骗他人的钱来为自己享福。如果我没有为客户管理投资,我现在很可能是一个年收入过百万的成功理财专家。如果没有金融危机, 我可能是一个意气风发的金融公司总裁。我的客户, 我的家人也不会经受那么多的痛苦。一切皆因我。我坦然领受该有的惩罚。我感恩有益的批评和指教。但拒绝羞辱和无中生有的诽谤。 对我的恩惠,在下会牢记于心。 对我的羞辱和伤害,本人也会铭记。以徳报徳;以直报怨。 只要我不死! 我欠的,我会还! 欠我的(公道和说法),我要讨!
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回复 半老徐爹:好奇怪啊,这位"半老徐爹"竟然自称是"杨君", 而且还满口喷粪. 请问这是哪里? 这里是加拿大"51网站", 不是中国大陆. 大家是在谈老唐的事,没套你的笼头,你插的什么嘴? 你在大陆继续享你的福吧,加拿大你那帮傻子客户早就让你坑苦了, 你还要怎么样? 继续给你供款还是给你捐钱? 杨君, 如果你真有种,试学一下人家老唐, 也在这里喊一下冤,让更多的人同情你! 看看你的那些客户谁还相信. 骂街算什么本事,只说明你的卑鄙和下流! 网管: 此人冒充杨君, 建议封他的号, 杨博士怎能这样出言不逊!
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就疯子一个吧.
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以前哪个电影里的?在人民政府面前抵赖?没有用!哈
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————— 2016-04-09 ————— 唐炜臻 18:52 昨天遇到几个打官司有经验的朋友,我们发现这是一个奇怪的领域,华人在海外打官司很薄弱,需要培养教育和训练,打官司是个好生意,我们可以一起来打,把它做成一个大生意,我们自己研究,自主,尽心尽力,价廉物美,发挥主管能动性和自由。用自己的案例和知识经验帮助别人。 很多人遇到官司头痛,紧张,害怕,逃跑。请律师没有钱,更麻烦的是,一般律师收钱不办事,办不了事,把你卖了还要你付钱。 最好是先请有经验的人们把案子先自己搞清楚,法律研究清楚,战略战术,搞清楚,文件做好,让当事人自己出面或者请律师出庭就行。 唐老师在如此境遇中,还能想到要用自己的案例帮助别人,说明唐老师是一个坚持正义,乐于助人的人。想信所有支持正义的人们,都会支持您。 我是全心全意为投资人和人民群众服务的,始终把投资人的利益放在首位,我的打官司难度越大,作用越大,影响越大,利益就越大,我坚信我一定会赢的,前天是一个十分重要的决定,但不是唯一的决定,我会有很多法庭活动,越打越有经验和智慧,力量。 打官司,最佳方案是自力更生,艰苦奋斗。案情自己最清楚,法律明白,知己知彼,百战不胜。 相信会有水落石出真相大白的一天,但这也许也是一个异常艰辛漫长的过程。
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既然老唐都说要告到联合国了,说明老唐可以去鉴定是不是精神分裂,这样还有可能脱罪。
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鉴定结果是骗子,可以骗一些愚昧愚蠢的中国人。老唐是毛左,基本一样。。
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唐的欺骗主要是向投资人保证有多少回报,在亏损后刻意隐瞒,还继续骗后来的投资人。真是个无耻骗子,还缺乏自知之明,牢房里出来还喊冤,这种人就得让他永远不能翻身,不然的话,又要招摇撞骗。
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故事情节是这样的: 老唐当年是大陆华人华侨领袖, 2008年让很多大陆华人华侨留学生吃上了包子, 这样招致加拿大政府的怨恨, 想尽一切办法迫害老唐, 这样加拿大情报局就找了几个所谓的苦主诬陷老唐, 借此机会不准老唐请律师的情况下黑箱作业把老唐投入狱中, 成为著名的华人政治犯, 当前老唐被皇家骑警软禁在家, 不准出国逃亡, 我代表老唐呼吁大家捐钱捐物, 协助老唐逃往中国大陆, 出席中国政协会议, 控诉加拿大政府。
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告到联合国没有用。应该告到中国大使馆,那样可能还有用,哈哈
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Mr. Tang: The hearing will be held in Courtroom #6 at Osgoode Hall, 130 Queen Street West. That is the big court building at the north east corner of Queen and University (with the big iron fence around it). Mr. Lung wrote to advise you that we expect that the parties bringing the motions will go first on Monday, and we would intend to leave you all day Tuesday to make your submissions, with the exception of one hour reserved for reply by the moving parties at the end of your submissions. However, the order and timing are decisions to be made by the judge on Monday. So, you may be called upon to make your submissions on Monday. The judge will likely expect you to bring all your materials on Monday and be prepared to argue on Monday. We did receive your e-mail, below, regarding filing of materials, in which you indicated you were unable to file certain materials. Could you confirm that you did file the materials served on the parties on April 12? I believe you were going to file those materials, and we all consented to accept e-mail service of the April 12 materials. Yours truly, Freya Kristjanson Wardle Daley Bernstein Bieber LLP Freya Kristjanson PARTNER t 416.351.2789 f 416.351.9196
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Mr. Tang: The hearing will be held in Courtroom #6 at Osgoode Hall, 130 Queen Street West. That is the big court building at the north east corner of Queen and University (with the big iron fence around it). Mr. Lung wrote to advise you that we expect that the parties bringing the motions will go first on Monday, and we would intend to leave you all day Tuesday to make your submissions, with the exception of one hour reserved for reply by the moving parties at the end of your submissions. However, the order and timing are decisions to be made by the judge on Monday. So, you may be called upon to make your submissions on Monday. The judge will likely expect you to bring all your materials on Monday and be prepared to argue on Monday. We did receive your e-mail, below, regarding filing of materials, in which you indicated you were unable to file certain materials. Could you confirm that you did file the materials served on the parties on April 12? I believe you were going to file those materials, and we all consented to accept e-mail service of the April 12 materials. Yours truly, Freya Kristjanson Wardle Daley Bernstein Bieber LLP Freya Kristjanson PARTNER t 416.351.2789 f 416.351.9196
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唐大骗子,请不要侮辱大家的智商。
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要是在祖國犯案,早就斃了,那有嘴巴說甚麼聯個國?
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WHY DOES WEIZHEN TANG INSIST THAT HE IS NOT GUILTY. Firstly, he insists that any deprivation to the investors was not caused by any deceit, falsehood, or other fraudulent means. Secondly, he insists, that at no time did he ever, ever intend to defraud his investors. While His Honour at the end of the day, will define the element of ‘intention’ to you. And it is certainly narrowly defined. The fact of the matter is that, according to the law, the crown simply has not discharged its onus to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Weizhen Tang knew, knew in his mind, that saying or doing any of these alleged transgressions could put at risk the economic or financial interest of the complainants. Query, why has Weizhen Tang, so courageously, so vehemently, so insistently stood up and railed against the OSC? Firstly, as testified to, he welcomes any and all investigation. Indeed, you heard him boldly tell the Crown that he welcomed Mr. Gattrell’s cross-examination and asserted those memorable words in this trial to ‘Bring it On’. He says he is not only guilty of fraud, but that he is anti-fraud. Why does he say this. Because throughout the trial, Weizhen Tang has insisted that the OSC doesn’t protect investors whereas Weizheng Tang did. In fact, Weizhen Tang throughout the trial, would indicate either in cross-examination or in testimony that the OSC rarely gets its man. Weizhen Tang asserts that the OSC investigator, one Mr. Thompson, had the opportunity to discuss his case with his former colleagues at the Fraud detachment – the same detachment that charged Weizhen Tang in November of 2009 with Fraud. Weizhen Tang insists, that unlike Bre-X, Sino-Forest, and one Joe Feng Deng of MP Global Financial limited, he Weizhen Tang was charged with both OSC and Criminal Charges. And this, according to Weizhen Tang, was because of bias. TANG BIAS And here are the reasons for the alleged bias on the part of the OSC: 1) Weizhen Tang had a uniquely high profile in the Chinese Community. He singlehandedly funded the 2007, 2008, and 2009 Chinese New Years Show. He singlehandedly organized the two North American Chinese Wealth Summits in 2006 and 2009 that we’ve heard about. And he was the brains, the finances, the inspiring force behind the 4.13 10,000 man march to steps of Parliament Hill. 2) Weizhen Tang points to his visit by the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) to question him about this 4.13 rally. 3) Weizhen Tang insists that but for his television and letter campaign against the OSC prior to the criminal charge, he would have never been criminally charged. In essence, he’s the gadfly of the OSC. That is, a man who persistently annoys or provokes others with criticism, schemes, ideas, demands, requests, etc. 4) As an example of this, you’ve heard about the Business News Network interviews Weizhen Tang did, along with the 25 point plan sent to all the media outlets indicating his defence and serious issues with the OSC. To draw a very poor analogy, just as Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses one October day in 1517 to the door of All Saint’s Church in Wittenberg, so did Weizhen Tang email his 24 Theses to the doors of the media outlets of this great country. Again, this was prior to the criminal charge being laid. And it can be found at Exhibit 113 for your deliberation. Enumerated in his 25 points are the following: #18 Investors have been suffering because of the OSC cease trading order and other actions, and should wait no longer so see justice. #19 The OSC has its own agenda, image and interest, with little thought or concern for the rights of investors and the public interest. #20 The OSC mainly protects bank and other large institutions, while injuring individual investors. One can legitimately feel that the OSC has become the enemy of small business and individual investors. #21 It is informative that a large percentage of Weizhen Tang’s investors have always supported him to continue to trade for them, even after he was under investigation and hit with This unfortunate and unfair cease order. #22 Once can imagine a tragic new slogan for the Ontario Securities Commission and The American Securities Exchange Commission, after the way they have treated Weizhen Tang: “Too big to fail and too small to save. TANG – IMPECUNIOUS Weizhen Tang indicates that there is absolutely no evidence as confirmed by the accountant in this trial that he diverted monies to any offshore accounts, that he lived a lavish lifestyle etc that one could perhaps expect from a fraudster. In fact Weizhen Tang testified and provided documents about his inability to pay for a lawyer, pay for his property taxes, pay for a forensic accountant of his own, or even the gas in his house. You heard Weizhen Tang testify that he and his family members had to attend for a month or two to the local Young Man’s Christian Association (YMCA) to take showers. Further, he testified as to a court order to sell his own home, he provided letters from the bailiff’s office concerning monies owing, and upon his release for jail, there’s a picture of him in evidence at a garage sale he conducted to raise $3000.00. But perhaps the most real testimony in this regard was when Weizhen Tang cried like a broken man when speaking to the fact that he had to collapse his only son’s education fund. Of course, on this point, His Honour will instruct you that you are to make your decision in this case without sympathy, prejudice or fear. You will note, however, that Weizhen Tang broke down just before lunch on Wednesday, October 17, and when the afternoon court session commenced, Weizhen Tang introduced a UPS envelope with an accompanying letter advising him that TD Bank headquarters was shutting down his personal account. Indeed, there were 6 letters delivered to his doorstep that day, indicating that everyone of his family members were having their TD accounts shut down. Seeing that Weizhen Tang pays his mortgage to the TD bank through his TD account, he queried how he would continue. Strange, this would happen in the middle of his trial. But suffice it to say, it speaks to his impecunious nature. That is, that Weizhen Tang is barely hanging one financially. Indeed, Weizhen Tang’s defence of the fraud allegation, can be partly summed up in the following words – “If I’m a fraudster, then show me my money” Now, of course to prove the fraud allegation, the crown need not show that Tang or any other accused for that matter has piles of money horded in some account. But again, strange, that a man accused of intending to defraud his investors would mortgage his home to provide a cheque for $236,000 to his investors when the Weizhen Tang ship was sinking. Strange too, that at tab 16 of the Exhibit 84, the analysis of his funds report, that upon receiving 1 million dollars from Lucy Lu that he would immediately pay 8 investors tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars. TANG BIAS If I could return to Tang’s bias argument concerning the OSC. You will recall that the expert, who is also an OSC investigator, accountant Michael de Verteuil, wrote at paragraph 6 of his narrative, and I quote, “Personal bank records were not sought or obtained because they were considered beyond the scope of this analysis and therefore funds transferred to the personal account of Tang or the joint account between Tang and Hong Xiao were not analyzed further” However, when the accountant was questioned about this, he noted that he was mistaken and that Tang’s personal records were indeed sought and obtained, but that he simply did not think it worth while to look into them. Now, Weizhen Tang asserts that his personal records, which I understand can be found in the Ex 81 disk, will show much monies coming out to pay for the New Year’s Shows, Rallies, Wealth Summit and fund raising event and donations etc. Query, if Weizhen Tang’s personal records are not important to this case and Weizhen Tang’s lack of personal gain were not important to this case, why would the crown attorney spend a good part of his cross-examination late Thursday afternoon last, showing cheques made from Weizhen Tang’s business to him personally. In other words, if the accountant is right in asserting Tang’s personal finances are not important, and if Tang is wrong in emphasizing his lack of personal gain in this case, then why would the crown spend so much time on these cheques to Tang. Tang says to you ladies and gentlemen, that to be fair, it’s important for you to look into his personal finances, and invites you to examine exhibit 81 with the utmost scrutiny, in order to give you a balanced picture of what was really happening at the time. PETITIONS Weizhen Tang states have you ever heard a fraud case of where many of the investors are signing a petition to have the alleged fraudster trade again. Strange? He states what kind of fraudster spends his own money to pay investors, instead of trying to horde as much money as he can when the ship is sinking. Tis a bit odd, isn’t it? Tang notes, what kind of fraudster, would insist on fighting the OSC on behalf of himself and investors, and invite the authorities to actually investigate him. Isn’t this too counterintuitive? He queries that if he is some type of manipulative genius purposely committing a fraud on his investors, why is that he ends up having to take cold showers at the YMCA, collapsing his only son’s education fun, and have no money for his defence? He mentions, why would he agree to face his investors at all these meetings, if he truly has something to hide. If you’ve got something to hide, wouldn’t you run. STRAIGHT FROM WEIZHEN TANG Mr. Tang testified that the numbers on the account balances were true promises or targets. He notes that he was not deceiving anyone at any time. He states that he paid all the investors at all material times except that after the financial tsunami and the OSC interruption he was prevented from being able to carry out his obligations. He notes that his real time trading ability vindicates his ability and skill to pay investors. He notes that the five day live trading demonstration and its reflected results on the account balances shows you that what his saying is true. In fact, Tang testified that many times he would provide real time trading demonstration to his investors and that the results thereof were accurately reflected in the account balances. He further notes that using money from new investors to pay old investors is an industry standard. That new investor money is important cash flow. He asserts it’s only a crime to actually take money from investors. He further notes that the key is the intention to steal money or defraud investors. And of this he is not guilty. He argues that contrary to the crown’s assertions that Tang’s investors never knew the risks, the investors G in fact, had a variety of ways to control the risk. They could check on his real time trading for example. And he further points out to the fact that there were 30 million dollars plus in actual redemptions at the time of the crisis.
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邓越文的律师说他跟投资人没有签订投资合同 Anthony Speciale, Deng’s lawyer, countered the point in the afternoon by arguing that no investment contract was ever entered between MP and its investors whatsoever. 外汇交易不是投资人和他之间的事,亏损和盈利跟投资人没有直接的关系。投资人得到固定回报。 Forex trading was never carried out by lenders and investors, who do not share the risks, the profits and the losses, rather than being given a flat rate of return, said Speciale. 外汇不属于证券会的监管范围 Speciale further argued that forex activities do not fall under the jurisdiction of the securities legislation. 证券会的审判团没有权利作出判决,因为不是证券立法范围。 “It is my submission to you that it is important for you to determine whether this Commission’s panel has the jurisdiction to regulate the forex activities, which is the target of the cease trade order issued against my client… The forex is a peculiar economic activity that transcends provincial and international boundaries,” Speciale told the panel. 外汇交易属于经济活动 And the “guaranteed corporate debentures” issued by MP global do not satisfy the legal definition of debenture under the Ontario Securities Act, according to Deng’s lawyer. “A young man who left a bank in 2005 decided to take advantage of the opportunities in Canada and opened a business as a sole proprietorship and committed himself into the commercial world… There were some losses that occurred in 2008 and 2009, which was primarily brought on as a result of economic activities that he carried on. “This is not a Madoff situation, and this is not a Weizhen Tang situation. There is legitimacy in the business,” said Speciale. The OSC investigators should have tried to mediate with MP Global, and there is no provision under the Act that prevents them from doing so, stated Speciale. "To make a statement that my client was involved in a criminal gang activity is probably as serious as you can get,” said Speciale, referring to some email conversations between the OSC investigators and investors in 2009. In responding to Britton’s allegation that Deng lied to the panel during the cross examination over the $118,000 credit card expense on a diamond ring he bought for his wife, Speciale told the panel that Deng did not lie。 “He did a bit of skidding, which is a normal reaction from someone who is in a desperate situation and facing the enormous pressure from the unlimited investigative power of the OSC,” said Speciale. “Put yourself in the situation where the young man is: His in-laws invested with him, people were knocking on his doors requesting repayments from him, and he had marital problems with the wife who suffered a miscarriage… Should he be allowed to protect himself?” said Speciale. But it was Deng who put people in a desperate situation, said Britton, the OSC lawyer. “Deng raised 20 million and lost 7 million of investors’ money…
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我根本没有吹,我是宣传和推广我的1%理论与实践,我做过演示和示范无数次,投资人亲眼看到这种能力才投资的。投资无论亏损盈利是我负责,我始终把投资人的利益放在首位。 我随时随地可以做给大家看,即使现在。
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那你就别在这里浪费时间了!拿出你的1%周回报神功,到股市上捞钱还账,哪怕先还十万给大家看看,也比在这里胡吹有说服力。
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你老帮壳破罐破摔,可以恬不知耻,你还得为你儿子想想吧?
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当年在电视上看唐骗子忽悠他每天能赚?%,就想这骗子进监狱不遥远了。到了那时候估计他裤子都快输光了。这骗子真有他忽悠的那样股市本领,他早就世界大土豪了,怎么可能还跟小丑一样到处求人加入资金。
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他吹的是每周赚1%,那个时候他应该已经把本钱亏光了,也许他把本钱移作他用,他没有纪录很难知道投资者的本钱到底哪里去了,他在北京政协礼堂"刮大旋风“的时候,费用应该很高,花谁的钱?他自己的或是投资者的?
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老唐这样子折腾,是在浪费司法开支,是在浪费纳税人的钱。不过加拿大制度就是好,老唐还是有机会在折腾几下
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