最初由 unclecharlie 发布:
實際的作法
如果對agent不滿 實際的作法是以掛號信向其公司投訴 有憑有據
Complain to OREA rather than Agent's company. The broker would only protect their own agents. In contract, they are independent contractor rather than employment relationship.
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winterski
2008-03-13 23:38
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最初由 长春花 发布:
what about dual agency
What if I am a buyer without agent?
What if when I directly contact the listing agent and then I sign the purchase agreement with the seller for property A. But the seller does not accept my offer.
Then I start looking for another property B by contacting its listing agent too (not the same person). Do I owe any obligations to the first agent when I start signing purchase and sale agreement with another seller/agent for the second property?
thanks
Dual agency situation is not recommended since the agent can't be professional with each side with the price negotiation.
However, you probably would sign buyer customer agreement which just involves with this specific property rather than Buyer agency agreement(appoint that agent to be your exclusive agent for certain period)
What if I am a buyer without agent?
What if when I directly contact the listing agent and then I sign the purchase agreement with the seller for property A. But the seller does not accept my offer.
Then I start looking for another property B by contacting its listing agent too (not the same person). Do I owe any obligations to the first agent when I start signing purchase and sale agreement with another seller/agent for the second property?
thanks
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winterski
2008-03-13 13:09
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最初由 夜晚 发布:
不签buyer representation agreement可以吗?
看好房子再签。因为不打交道你是不知道这个经济的好坏的。
如果你真地想买房,你是等不起合同到期的。
A lot of Chinese agents do this practice, they won't let you sign until you are ready to put an offer,
not listing through
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winterski
2008-03-13 13:09
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最初由 Sean51 发布:
请第二帖和第五帖的朋友和其他准备买房的朋友们仔细读一下 Buyer Representation Agreement - Authority for Purchase or Lease 和 Buyer Customer Srrvice Agreement 中有关commision 的条款, 理解其中的区别再签字,否则会吃亏的。
同时,从事房地产买卖的Sales Representative 有责任和义务向客人仔细说明两份合同的内容和区别, 特别是其中 Commision 和 Holdover Period 的含义。要用 RECO Code of Ethics 约束自己的行为。提供应有的服务, 收取合理的费用。
http://www.torontorealestate.ca/pdffiles/OREA_BAAgrrmntForm_300_0406-s.pdf
Seller only owes commission to the first agent if the following are true:
- the buyer was introduced to the property during the first listing agreement with Salesperson A. If they weren't then Salesperson A does not get anything.
- the commission on the second listing agreement with Salesperson B is lower than what was noted in the agreement with the first listing salesperson. If the commission is the same on both listing agreements and the buyer was NOT introduced to the property by salesperson A, then salesperson A does not get anything. If the commission was lower on the second, AND the buyer was introduced to the property during the agreement with Salesperson A, then the seller owes Salesperson A the difference between the two commission rates.
- the sale was made during the holdover period.
yes, I am very familiar with OREA code of Ethics despite that I am not in practice now, thank you. You probably need to review again to be professional to the clients.
最初由 KUIPORNG 发布:
NOT THE SAME property
looks like the lady didn't buy the same property (didn't say that in the original document)... so there is no legal problem then....
if it is the same property... for sure she will have legal problem...
actually it doesn't matter. Once you signed Buyer agreement contact, you are obligated to deal with the same agent for that time period.
It only exists in Chinese agents that some of them don't need you to sign the agreement before you put your offer.
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winterski
2008-03-13 11:42
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具体来讲,对与买家而言,如果你在代理合同的一般有效期内,通过经纪人A的介绍,去看过一套住房,但没有购买。而在代理合同一般有效期结束,进入合同延伸期后,通过私售,或者其它经纪人(如经纪人B)的代理而购买了该套住房。这时,该买家需补偿其原经纪人(即经纪人A)。其补偿额度的大小,视具体情况不同而不同,可能是全额买方经纪费(如最后通过私售成交),也可能是买方经纪费的一部分。
Something wrong here.
In the hold-over period(usually 60 to 90 days), if you bought or sold your property by yourself, you need to amend agency fees to the agent.
However, if in the holdover period, if you find Agent B to represent you, Agent A has no right to claim agent fee any more.
Although that doesn't apply to this case since it is still within the contact when that lady contaced the second agent but people should know that right after the contact, they have right to find another agent.
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canada 51
2008-03-13 10:30
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51网需要这样的好文章。
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小川的爹
2008-03-13 09:26
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I won't pay any commission to my agents, the commission will be paid by the seller. So, the buyer won't care what's the difference between 2 or 3 agents. If the previous buyer's agent wants any commission, she/he must ask thew seller.
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