最初由 anna1122guo 发布：
7楼的很搞笑,人们选择在哪里居住都有自己的理由,这理由有千千万万.你的说法太狭隘了吧,真不知道你就是这智商还是别有用心
我看夏河表现得很得体,不卑不亢的.
Unforturenately, you don't have this freedom in mainland China.
Xia He is not knowledgable enough to take part in this kind of debate.
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justpaste
2008-04-22 02:17
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最初由 marilyn2000 发布：
民主人士认为4.13集会背后有中国政府的支持，理由是抗议者一下子拿出了那么多面制作精致的中国国旗。
I am doubting this as well now. The organizers provided the flags for free, but they didn't even mentioned how much they spent for the flag when they asked for more donation.
Like other people said, they should let people know the details of their spendings when they ask for donation. That's the only way they build up their credit. Otherwise, people will just think some dirty things happened.
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vjsw1
2008-04-22 01:37
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最初由 真诚对待 发布：
我从来就没有说加拿大哪里都好，也有它的缺点。可是能上街游行这点，起码比国内强，同意吗。
还有，悄悄地问你一句：你在国内看病吗。
看来你还是没有得到答案。你的中文理解能力有待提高。
在中国国内也可以游行！和国外的规矩是一样的。要按照政府批准的路线和规定的时间进行。明白了吗？你太老了，已经被飞速发展变化的中国给淘汰了。如果为自己是Chinese 而感到羞愧，您可以说不是Chinese. Chinese Community 最富有的就是人，不在乎那些人退出。
Quote "夏河以外的四个华人谈话代表基本就是文化掐媚＋浅薄＋成见着，嘴角不时的挂着嘲笑 ..." They should all cry there ? a good discussion in all
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Orientspear
2008-04-21 23:59
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最初由 learnerforever 发布：
I do not feel that Alex was under attacks from all participants. Angela is more or less factual and diplomatic. Wenruan Jiang is more in depth, more academic in his presentation and analysis. Chuek Kwan is a nut head. He is totally senseless and not worth listening to at all. Jan Wong is forever that shallow and superfacial, as she has always been. It just surprises me she has the nerve to make a fool of herself whenever there is an occasion. I hope people know that she was a former "Red Guard" in China in the 1970s. In general, Alex wasn't doing too bad at all. He was a bit too passive. He should have focused on media bias and propaganda of the Dalai Lama, which was the reason why we were at the Parliament Hill on 4.13.
Agree.
最初由 learnerforever 发布：
I do not feel that Alex was under attacks from all participants. Angela is more or less factual and diplomatic. Wenruan Jiang is more in depth, more academic in his presentation and analysis. Chuek Kwan is a nut head. He is totally senseless and not worth listening to at all. Jan Wong is forever that shallow and superfacial, as she has always been. It just surprises me she has the nerve to make a fool of herself whenever there is an occasion. I hope people know that she was a former "Red Guard" in China in the 1970s. In general, Alex wasn't doing too bad at all. He was a bit too passive. He should have focused on media bias and propaganda of the Dalai Lama, which was the reason why we were at the Parliament Hill on 4.13.
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Monarch
2008-04-21 23:42
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All in all, Prof. Jiang and Andrea Chun are pro Chinese government and Olympic Games. It's the other two who kept criticizing China. So I don't see it as “群殴”.
It's good discussion in general, and I am impressed by Alex's courage. However I am a little disappointed by his naive reaction to some of the minor points (like Canadian flag etc.) He could have stick to the key points why we protest...
Still way to go!
I do not feel that Alex was under attacks from all participants. Angela is more or less factual and diplomatic. Wenruan Jiang is more in depth, more academic in his presentation and analysis. Chuek Kwan is a nut head. He is totally senseless and not worth listening to at all. Jan Wong is forever that shallow and superfacial, as she has always been. It just surprises me she has the nerve to make a fool of herself whenever there is an occasion. I hope people know that she was a former "Red Guard" in China in the 1970s. In general, Alex wasn't doing too bad at all. He was a bit too passive. He should have focused on media bias and propaganda of the Dalai Lama, which was the reason why we were at the Parliament Hill on 4.13.
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fredy
2008-04-21 23:38
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里面夏河被问到这么多中国国旗这不是由中国政府支持的吗？
夏河应该回答，那么几个西藏的藏独分子，他们是不是游行的时候也应该拿加拿大国旗呢，他们是不是由流氓政府支持的活动呢？为了表达你是支持中国，为什么要拿加拿大国旗呢。当你表达你的观点的时候为什要引用一些相干的事实呢。
你面有个Chinese Canadian说这么多中国国旗不对，我们是加拿大人，我们对加拿大效忠。
前一些日子，我听到cbc讨论关于Canadian Identity. 说真的我对加拿大没有任何的归属感，Identity是文化，是根，中国的文化博大精深，想到文化我会想到金庸的小说，成语，唐诗宋词，鲁迅的作品，故宫等等等等，但我对加拿大没有任何的归属感，生活在加拿大说的好听是混，说的不好听是苟且。我尊重那些Chinese Canadian对加拿大效忠，但当call of duty响起的时候，我会回去的.就像大马哈鱼死也要回到它的出生地.
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