The biggest Liberal loser in its electoral history, a self-admitted campaign failure who advocated carbon taxes as sound economy policy and lacks significant Western Canada representation, seems set to become Prime Minister Stephane Dion next week.
哈哈！我Dion 就要当总理啦！你们这些支持我的大大大大SB
哈哈！我Jack Layton就要上台啦啦！你们这些支持我的大大大大SB，我们三个组成联合政府，要宣布支持西藏独立
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/12/02/question-period.html#socialcomments
cccwww wrote:
Posted 2008/12/02
at 4:47 PM ETA coalition government would actually be representing the majority. Remember in
this election the Conservatives received only 37.6% of the popular vote. The breakdown of
percentage of popular vote is as follows:
Conservative – 37.6%
Liberal – 26.2%
NDP – 18.2%
Bloc Québécois – 10.0%
Green Party – 6.8%
Independent – 0.7%.
If seats were awarded based on the percentage of vote received versus first past the pole,
it would be unnecessary to involve the Bloc Québécois in a coalition. The Liberals, NDP, and
Green Party together received 51.2% of the popular vote. If awarded a proportionate amount
of seats this coalition would have a true majority.
A true democracy means everyone’s voice should count. As an example, the nearly 7% of
Canadians who decided not to “vote strategically” and voted for the Green Party; their
voice has been silenced.
Even the idea of strategic voting is perplexing in a democracy. A person should feel free to
vote for the leader they feel best matches their wishes. But in order to avoid wasting their
vote many decide to vote for the next best leader who they feel has a chance to win. In some
cases the votes are split and the party that the majority wanted the least wins the seat.
Winner takes all.
Let’s face it, the majority who voted for the Liberals, NDP, and Green Party certainly did
not want a conservative government, yet we have one. Does this make sense?
Even in the last election in 2006 the Liberals, NDP, and Green Party together received 52.2%
of the popular vote.
Sure a coalition could be prone to political wrangling, but at least the majority would be
represented. It might even change the dismal voter turn outs. It is not hard to understand
why some people do not bother voting as they know they party they would like to vote for
does not have a chance to win a seat.
ByronFSJ wrote:
Posted 2008/12/02
at 4:36 PM ETHarper did the same thing in 2004 and made alliances with the BLOC:
"September 9, 2004
Her Excellency the Right Honourable Adrienne Clarkson,
C.C., C.M.M., C.O.M., C.D.
Governor General
Rideau Hall
1 Sussex Drive
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A1
Excellency,
As leaders of the opposition parties, we are well aware that, given the Liberal minority
government, you could be asked by the Prime Minister
to dissolve the 38th Parliament at any time should the House of Commons fail to support some
part of the government's program.
We respectfully point out that the opposition parties, who together constitute a majority in
the House, have been in close consultation. We believe that, should a request for
dissolution arise this should give you cause, as constitutional practice has determined, to
consult the opposition leaders and consider all of your options before exercising your
constitutional authority.
Your attention to this matter is appreciated.
Sincerely,
Hon. Stephen Harper, P.C., M.P.
Leader of the Opposition
Leader of the Conservative Party of Canada"
(Also signed by Duceppe and Layton)
Anonymous Anthropologist wrote:
Posted 2008/12/02
at 4:05 PM ETThe parlamentary system allows for a coalition government to replace a minority
government that has lost the confidence of the House. The Bloc are not part of the
coalition, they are just supporting it (as Harper tried to get them to do a few years ago to
topple the Martin government).
Harper is a hypocrite (among other things) and does not have a mandate from the majority of
Canadians; for him to cry that he was elected PM is patently false in our governmental
system -- his party may have the most seats, but this does not mean he gets to lead if a
viable coalition is formed that has more support. This is not the US, we do not elect our
PM, we elect MPs.
MikeTrites wrote:
Posted 2008/12/02
at 3:59 PM ETThis Parliamentary system is the foundation of our country. The founders of
this country set in place these rules for a reason. We, as a country and Canadians are
responsible for the votes we casted in the last election, and this democratic system. We
elected M.P.'s to represent us, and this is what we have. We are all Canadian!!
When the west is P.O.ed at the east or Quebec, and the same goes some in the East, with
views of the West. Please realize that there are people in these areas who support your
views also, though be it they are a minority in their area; but they still exist, and they
are still Canadians.
You casted a vote, If you're not happy with your M.P., don't vote for him/her next time. Our
system is different than that south of the border, that is what makes us Canadian.
Mr. Harper, broke his promise to call an early election, because he was afraid of what is
happening now, happening.
Mr. Harper, you lied about not calling early elections, you miss lead the people in the
country and parliament, saying, "The party's signed an agreement yesterday without a
Canadian Flag behind them." Wrong again!! Get your facts straight. There was more than one
flag there!
Mr. Harper, you lie consistently, you refuse to admit to your mistakes, you refuse to answer
questions put forward to you. You answer questions, with the questions you want to be asked.
Why can you not answer a question in which you're asked?
Mr. Harper, be a statesmen, not a dictator! The actions you're taking remind me of a
dictator, you have lost this battle. Bow down respectfully, re-group and come back!
You're are Happy because your plans to help bring in the Amero may be at risk.
northernskye wrote:
Posted 2008/12/02
at 4:08 PM ETHarper is SUCH a hypocrite!!! How dare he treat Canadians with such blatant
disrespect? He himself endorsed exactly such a coalition with the Bloc in 2004 . . . he
would do or say anything now to stay in power. He still cannot grasp that his inability to
work with other parties, and his over-arching arrogance have brought him to this final
curtain on his empire. Goodbye and good riddance! GO COALITION!
IqaluitNorth wrote:
Posted 2008/12/02
at 4:36 PM ETOK I explained this on another post but here we go again...
1. Canada isn't a Democracy; it's a Constitutional Monarchy the constitution give the
Canadians the right to vote for their Members of Parliament. So the only people that voted
for Harper are the residents of Calgary Southeast and that was as an MP. The Governor
General get's to chose the PM and that is usually the leader of the party with the most
seats in the lower house but it doesn’t have to be.
2. The Governor Generals only mandate for choosing a PM is to pick someone that can maintain
the confidence of the house. If Harper no longer has the confidence of the house and Dion
does then he is an acceptable candidate for the position.
3. Coalition governments are common around the world, in fact our very first government was
a coalition between Her majesties Liberals and Her majesties Conservatives lead by John A
MacDonald.
4. After all minority governments are elected there has been speculation and talk of
coalitions taking power, this usually leads to the Stronger party making concessions to
prevent his Government from toppling. This is nothing new it's always been this way.
Personally I would rather a Coalition Government then a waste of time and money that would
be another election.
Jacksass wrote:
Posted 2008/12/02
at 4:05 PM ETAll of the people in the coalition have been voted in by the people. They are
proving they can work together in governing this country. If Harper can not work with the
other people in the government, then he should not be in a position of power. The Cons have
had ample time to fix their budget, but apparently not the know how to do it.
I think the problem is that the Cons do not know how to cooperate, which is something that
is necessary for a minority government.
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