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好啊,很多各行各业被累的工人顶上,培训几天就可以干了吧,尤其是收垃圾这种活
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We should find a way to sue the city and the Union....... Did you find out it? I do figure out a way for you: eat your ****!!!
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Mel Lastman 和 Mike Harris 在台上时是不是没有罢工,没有工会啊!政客就是政客,党棍就是党棍。选谁上去都是一球样。建设,维护好这个国家,城市,社区靠的是你我他。大家尽量减少垃圾,不乱到垃圾,义务清理垃圾,保护环境,没什么大不了的。 Mel Lastman在台上时也有罢工, 可是没怎么加税,市府还有几亿的储备金. 到左翼的苗大伟上台, 罢工照样有, 第一个任期内先花光了市府的几亿元储备金, 第二个任期就加了好几种税. 没有绝对好的市长, 右翼的Mel Lastman和左翼的苗大伟哪个对市民搜刮的轻一点? 市民都象你这样被大工会罢工害了就骂几句完了, 不出来投票, 下次还是得到大工会支持的左翼政客上台, 各种税接着加, 罢工政府不管. 至于你说的"建设,维护好这个国家,城市,社区靠的是你我他。大家尽量减少垃圾,不乱到垃圾,义务清理垃圾,保护环境", 恐怕是没太多人这么干, 还是想点实在的事吧.
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你的态度错的很离谱: 1,社会基础服务的工人,不能像企业工人那样享有普遍的罢工权利,因为罢工的后果是不同的。你不能光强调每个人都有点火的权利,因为点炮仗和点核弹是不同的概念。 2,罢工发生后,市民们不应该坐在家里哑忍和愤怒,应该组织一起来,积极充当垃圾清理义工,既保证了市容的清洁,又打击了不义的工会。 赞成。 任何社会都不会是完美的,都需要发现问题解决问题,逐步完善,当然还是不会至善至美。工会同工会不一样,尤其当某种工会势力太大,严重影响了民众,就要有一个能管束它的机构,让民众有地方去申诉,去游行示威,前提是理性的合法的。不知省议会是不是这种机构,如果是,民众就应该到那里去。政府不要把事情拖得太久,会让民众很失望,而且有样学样。 再有,如何控制有关政府各类人员工资不合理的增长,减少民众的负担也是需要探讨的,尤其是现阶段。
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人家罢工发挥的是团队精神。市民如果也都团结起来,对付这场罢工力量一定会超过工会。关键是如何组织市民维护城市的良好秩序。
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有道理, 自由党和NDP都和大工会关系密切, 看看自由党省府对百姓要求发布复工令的观望态度就知道了, 只有在大工会罢工的关键时刻, 才能充分表现左翼政党对大工会的密切关系, 百姓的利益被放在了第二位. 华人应该出来投票, 并与大工会关系密切的自由党和NDP这样的左翼政党保持一定的距离, 他们首先保护大工会的利益. Mel Lastman 和 Mike Harris 在台上时是不是没有罢工,没有工会啊!政客就是政客,党棍就是党棍。选谁上去都是一球样。建设,维护好这个国家,城市,社区靠的是你我他。大家尽量减少垃圾,不乱到垃圾,义务清理垃圾,保护环境,没什么大不了的。
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作者看来是苗大为的支持者,市民不做工会的人质,就做了苗大为的人质!你以为他这次强硬是为了市民的利益吗?只是为了多加税找一个借口而已!这个万税市长上台后挟持市民的事做得还少吗?为了给他们自己加工资,每辆在多伦多注册的车要多付60刀登记税一年,为了他的选票,缩小Downtown一条车道为不见踪影的骑车人开辟自行车道,他知道吗,车辆被堵所多排放的废气远远比那几个骑车人放弃汽车而少排放的废气要多的多。要拆掉Gardina高速进一步堵塞Downtown交通的也是这个人,所以民主制度其实也就是如此。普通市民无论在哪个制度下面,都是任人宰割的。 苗大为在台上就是多敛钱, 再瞎折腾把钱都花光.
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你的态度错的很离谱: 1,社会基础服务的工人,不能像企业工人那样享有普遍的罢工权利,因为罢工的后果是不同的。你不能光强调每个人都有点火的权利,因为点炮仗和点核弹是不同的概念。 2,罢工发生后,市民们不应该坐在家里哑忍和愤怒,应该组织一起来,积极充当垃圾清理义工,既保证了市容的清洁,又打击了不义的工会。
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华人都不投票,让老苗上台,活该啊!下次要坚决把他赶下台.40万华人,只要我们都不投NDP(庙过去是NDP的)的票,他就得下台, 有道理, 自由党和NDP都和大工会关系密切, 看看自由党省府对百姓要求发布复工令的观望态度就知道了, 只有在大工会罢工的关键时刻, 才能充分表现左翼政党对大工会的密切关系, 百姓的利益被放在了第二位. 华人应该出来投票, 并与大工会关系密切的自由党和NDP这样的左翼政党保持一定的距离, 他们首先保护大工会的利益.
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作者看来是苗大为的支持者,市民不做工会的人质,就做了苗大为的人质!你以为他这次强硬是为了市民的利益吗?只是为了多加税找一个借口而已!这个万税市长上台后挟持市民的事做得还少吗?为了给他们自己加工资,每辆在多伦多注册的车要多付60刀登记税一年,为了他的选票,缩小Downtown一条车道为不见踪影的骑车人开辟自行车道,他知道吗,车辆被堵所多排放的废气远远比那几个骑车人放弃汽车而少排放的废气要多的多。要拆掉Gardina高速进一步堵塞Downtown交通的也是这个人,所以民主制度其实也就是如此。普通市民无论在哪个制度下面,都是任人宰割的。
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Taylor Law From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search This article does not cite any references or sources. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unverifiable material may be challenged and removed. (September 2008) The Public Employees Fair Employment Act (more commonly known as the Taylor Law) refers to Article 14 of the New York State Civil Service Law, which defines the rights and limitations of unions for public employees in New York. New York State statute named for labor researcher George W. Taylor authorizing a governor-appointed State Public Employment Relations Board to resolve contract disputes for public employees while curtailing their right to strike. Mediation and binding arbitration are intended to give voice to unions while work stoppages are made punishable with fines and jail time. The United Federation of Teachers and the Uniformed Sanitationmen’s Association challenged the Taylor Law at its 1967 inception. Following a 2005 strike, Transit Workers’ president Roger Toussaint was incarcerated for three days as per a Taylor Law ruling. Contents * 1 Details * 2 History * 3 Criticism and reform * 4 External links Details The Taylor Law grants public employees the right to organize and elect their union representatives. It defines the boundaries for public employers in negotiating and entering into agreements with these public unions. The law also defines the terms for the foundation of the Public Employment Relations Board, a state agency that administers the law in matters related to public strike negotiation. The board consists of three members appointed by the governor. Each member must be approved by the senate, and only two can be of the same political party. One of the most controversial parts of the Taylor Law is Section 210, which prohibits New York state public employees from striking, compelling binding PERB arbitration in the event of an impasse in negotiations. The fine for striking is twice the employee's salary for each day the strike lasts. History * The law was put into effect in 1967, following costly transit strikes the previous year. * Since its declaration, the law has been cited in averting several potential transit strikes. The fine was applied during the New York City Transit Authority 1980 transit strike and was applied again in the 2005 New York City transit strike. * During the 2005 transit strike, both the workers and the employers violated portions of the Taylor Law. Section 210 states that the workers are not allowed to strike; Section 201 Part 4 states that employers are not allowed to negotiate benefits provided by a public retirement fund or payment to a fund or insurer to provide an income for retirees. * As of December 20, 2005, the New York State Supreme Court in Kings County (Brooklyn), declared the Transport Workers Union Local 100 in violation of the Taylor Law, and issued a fine of $1,000,000 per day, pursuant with the guidelines set forth in the law. * The Taylor Law is named for George W. Taylor, chairman of the commission appointed by Nelson Rockefeller to propose amendments to the Condon-Wadlin Law. Taylor was a professor of industrial research at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton school for forty years before his death in 1972. He served as an advisor on labor relations issues to Presidents Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson. Taylor was a strong supporter of the strike in private sector bargaining. Criticism and reform While government officials support the Taylor Law as a way of preventing strikes by municipal unions in New York, the unions contend that the law is harsh on them. The labor unions also contend that the Taylor Law does not provide government agencies the incentive to negotiate contracts on a timely basis and negotiate the terms of the contract in good faith. There have been lobbying efforts by municipal unions to the New York state legislature to change the Taylor Law. There is some resistance or reluctance on reforming the law. With the creation and assistance of the Taylor Law, members of many organizations including the Albany Fire Department were able to unionize, becoming one of the strongest political organizations. The year 1970 saw the birth of Union Local 2007, which was also responsible in paving the way for all other public sector unions in the City of Albany, New York. The Taylor Law has been a frequent target for upstate New York activists, as it severely limits the ability of governments to limit spending on unionized labor, with minimal recourse in the event the unions illegally strike.The Buffalo Teachers Federation, for instance, illegally struck in September 2000, delaying the start of the school year, with the only consequences being a fine for every work day the teachers were on strike. High labor expenses, fueled mostly by above-inflation pay increases to the teachers, firefighters, and police officers, eventually led to massive layoffs and the institution of a wage freeze and an appointed control board in the city of Buffalo. After several years of the wage freeze, the city's budget went from deficit to surplus; after the freeze was lifted, Buffalo Public Schools once again fell back to a huge deficit. Buffalo developer Carl Paladino has cited the Taylor Law as one of the major problems facing New York State and a reason for calling for a constitutional convention to wholly reform the current state government.
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全是一帮地痞流氓。
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罢工也就罢了,但是阻断交通, 阻止市民自己把垃圾送到垃圾站就有点过了。
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一帮子新移民 老大叔的,懂个屁阿,拿着你在国内的那套东西来分析北美形态。懂什么啊,装的 应该仔细研读加拿大自由和人权宪章 (http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/charter/),自然明白为什么加拿大社会有这样或那样的现实。自由是一把双刃剑,可以披荆斩棘,也可滥杀无辜。。。 我可爱的加拿大,我可憎的加拿大。 这就是现实。
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We should find a way to sue the city and the Union.......
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一帮子新移民 老大叔的,懂个屁阿,拿着你在国内的那套东西来分析北美形态。懂什么啊,装的
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“现在失业率这么高。要是能招一些临时工,完成罢工工人的活该多好。短时解决了一些人的就业问题,还可不让这些垃圾工人乱要价。” 这样作的话,垃圾工人会和你拼命。北美的工会就是黑社会。 其实苗大卫是工会这边的,他是想借罢工为他加税寻找理由。 如果谁周末组织反罢工游行的话,请都积极参加!!!
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Here is Canada. Don't think and talk in your traditional way. It will hurt you in the future. Everyone has rights to fight for himself. You are right. Everyone has rights to fight for himself, including all the citizens who are hurt by those garbage.
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华人都不投票,让老苗上台,活该啊!下次要坚决把他赶下台.40万华人,只要我们都不投NDP(庙过去是NDP的)的票,他就得下台,
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现在失业率这么高。要是能招一些临时工,完成罢工工人的活该多好。短时解决了一些人的就业问题,还可不让这些垃圾工人乱要价。 I agree with you.
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Here is Canada. Don't think and talk in your traditional way. It will hurt you in the future. Everyone has rights to fight for himself.
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现在失业率这么高。要是能招一些临时工,完成罢工工人的活该多好。短时解决了一些人的就业问题,还可不让这些垃圾工人乱要价。
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软弱的姿态不可取;真正的办法是上街游行,公交罢工只是影响部分群体,垃圾罢工可是损害了全民的利益,上街人数可能比同性恋大游行的人都多,立法会改的很快。垃圾、TTC存在实属没有必要,在提倡自由竞争的经济中,私有部门会做得更高效、更经济
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多伦多将在恶臭中庆祝加拿大国庆节 以后还会有邮局罢工、TTC罢工、政府公务员罢工、公校教师罢工。。。都要求涨工资,不断要求,不断涨。。。政客们对此纵容,因为他们只关心选票,不想得罪这些工会。真不知这种局面将把加拿大引向什么方向? 民主过头了,就会走向最后导致社会崩溃的斜路
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让工会知道,没有你们,不但我们也能行,而且做得更好,我们不是你们的人质,是有素质的城市主人。 谈何容易。 华人都不投票,让老苗上台,活该啊!下次要坚决把他赶下台.40万华人,只要我们都不投NDP(庙过去是NDP的)的票,他就得下台,
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让工会知道,没有你们,不但我们也能行,而且做得更好,我们不是你们的人质,是有素质的城市主人。 谈何容易。
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立即立法,禁止工会罢工。去年TTC,今年CUPE,明年呢,以后呢……………………
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坚持和忍耐决不是我们反对罢工的最好态度! 如果我们每个人都能把我们的意见反映到政府+工会+媒体, 那才能真正体现出我们的态度.
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