最初由 芝麻雪泡168 发布：
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看看這裏的留言...
再看看加國無憂裏的評論....
截然不同的兩種形勢
這裏是留學生的論壇....(MOST OF US)...
只有留學生可以感受總留學生的喜和悲..."幸福著一樣的幸福,,,悲傷著一樣的悲傷"
我們歡樂的時候,,是和自己人一起,,痛哭裏,,也是自己人來安慰....
By this type of logic, it seems easier than ever to judge good/bad guys, if he/she is young and studying here, let us help them. If he/she is an immgrant, let he/she survivie on their own.
I don't want to comment who is wrong or right. First, I don't know how much those agents charge for helping the students to get the loan or rental. The agents are charging money because they are taking the risk. Banks also charge interest for lending the money. Why banks don't lend money to students? Because students from aboard has no credit history and they are belonged to high risks group. (This is based on the history, no personal opinion)
I graduated in 2003 and have a huge loan now. But this is my choice, I decided to pay that tuition and borrowed money from the bank. I won't complaint. If you want to complaint, first think about it. You made the choice, right? You can certainly rent a room from a house without an agent. But if you want to live comfortably, you have to live with it.
There is no free lunch in Canada.
最初由 nancymoon 发布：
NANCYMOON is right!
Yes, your parents! If you realy want to go to outside of China you have to be matural and get very well prepared.
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nancymoon
2005-10-06 14:04
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最初由 到处51 发布：
休息休息吧,你们那些移民当然不明白留学生的痛苦,为什么到了这里移民就变的冷血,你们忘了自己还是中国人了吗?留学生是弱势,但是也没求你们移民来帮忙,所以别动不动用加拿大的法律来压我们,我可以告诉你们,我是留学生,但是我赚的钱,是你们的10倍!我用的是自己赚的钱,也没干苦力活,该移民们妒忌妒忌了吧.别以为移民高人一等.
your money must be ILLEGAL if you Do NOT work hard you still get paid 10 times more!!! In canada it is somewhat fair----you want to earn more you HAVE to work harder, or your money is coming from selling sth. of yourself???
do not think naivvely, there is noth. you need to show off!!! remember: you have to do anything LEGALLY!!!
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nancymoon
2005-10-06 13:58
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最初由 清华北大 发布：
如果我们留学生都来自诚信社会，能这么苦么？这都是大人造的孽啊！
Yes, your parents! If you realy want to go to outside of China you have to be matural and get very well prepared.
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Wassup
2005-10-06 13:33
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最初由 芝麻雪泡168 发布：
留學生的心態只有留學生有懂,,,不然就是留學生的父母....那些將要送孩子出國的人會關注..
至於移民...(不算那些年輕移民,,或是還是學生的移民),,,,技術移民者.....
特別是那些心態極度狹隘者....只會遭踏留學生...
I've been played both roles. Never understand why some immigrants hates student as you claimed? We are all chinese, why do some people do that?
最初由 芝麻雪泡168 发布：
回复：comments to the real author: stop the whining
您知道您為什麽會說這樣的話嗎？??因為您不知道要比這個作者大多少....就好像您說的是當年在US讀書的時候....在您的那個時候沒有一點點抱怨態度嗎？
小作者....一看就是小留學生....而且....您是否只是讀了文章的第一部分呢??? 只是關注那部分錢包的問題呢????
文章中還有些別人的故事...別的留學生的故事您有看嗎？
就好像文章中說的,,,,留學生是個群體...這篇文章是站在留學生的角度寫的.....
您也當過留學生...那個時候,,,您是否想過有人會出來說話....是否您也和同學們一起說過這樣的事情....但是也就是閑話聊聊的事呢?
現在您過了那個年紀,,,,就不能體會我們的心情(我也是留學生),,,所以你又開始以過來人的身份在那裏站著說話不腰疼了吧......
As we have suffered before as the last generation of students going aboard, I don't think students in China only have one option like we had before. They can study in China with their family if they can't afford it. What is wrong with that?
Pushing each other to the emotional and economic edge, developing unhappyness towards the country that he/she studies, It is VERY unhealthy.
In general nowadays, I don't think going aboard is the only option that most chinese students have. Furthermore, I think most of students going aboard just because of the peer pressure or parent pressure. It is very stupid.
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Wassup
2005-10-06 11:27
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最初由 芝麻雪泡168 发布：
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潛水久後,,,發現個問題,,,那就是許多朋友回複貼子時根本沒有看完過全文...所以說起話來很是可笑..因為他的疑問,作者在文章後有提到...
不要以為言論自由了,,,說出來的話就不負責任了....
what the heck r u talking about?
I am telling the truth and facts and you are blaming me.
Of course I feel sympathy towards internal students as I know how hard it is.
However being ignorant of the facts will make it worse.
Whatever, if you want to be so righteous, what else I can say.
我们留学生，其实都是“流血生”......