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一月GTA销量止跌 公寓销量价格双降

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實際上,買房就像買股票一樣,有人看漲,有人看跌! 如果你看加拿大近年來的房價,你會知道,自2000年來,房價漲了一倍還要翻兩個跟頭! 就是在經濟最不景氣的2008年,房價也沒見跌!漲了0.8%。 有人把房價高漲歸于2008年來的低利率,實際上,從2000年來,房價每年上漲的幅度都差不多(2008年除外)。 每年都有那么多新移民過來,這些人都需要房子住,所以房子的需求量不會下降太多。 我想,除非,加拿大不移民了,就沒房子的需求了,房價會大跌。 另外,就是像上世紀90年代的經濟大衰退,整個經濟徹底跨臺;或者比2008年還嚴重的衰退。 只有這樣的情況出現,房價才會出現大的下跌。 但我想,在這里,看房子只否會漲跌的人,應都不希望加拿大出現大的經濟蕭條。如果真的蕭條了,那時,你也不會或沒錢,更沒膽買房了! 對每一個已經買房的人,房子的漲跌對你自己沒有多大的關系,頂多就找個精神安慰。看見漲,你覺得買的合算了,看見跌,你覺得買虧了。 但你已經買了,漲跌除影響你心情外,與你真的沒太大的關系:除非你準備以大房換小房,你才會希望房子漲,否則,房價跌可能對你更有益。 如果你交過幾年地稅后,你就知道這樣一個事實:房子漲,意味著你交的地稅也得跟著漲,現在每個市都在把你的房子價錢抬起來,以便政府能夠從你那收更多的稅!
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跌了好,正好低价入市。 胆小的就看热闹吧。看了太多移民到加拿大十多年还在租房住的人,十年前就嫌贵,后来发现越来越贵。多伦多的房价怎么会跌呢?短期跌跌是正常现象,长期就一个字:涨。 多伦多的房价和北京上海相比已经很幸福了。
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http://www.wenxuecity.com/news/2013/02/11/2227241.html
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看跌!
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http://www.torontorealestateboard.com/market_news/release_market_updates/news2013/nr_comm_watch_0113.htm
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GTA Commercial REALTORS? Report Commercial Market Figures TORONTO, February 5, 2013 -- Toronto Real Estate Board (TREB) Commercial Division Members reported almost 392,000 square feet of leased industrial, commercial/retail and office space through the TorontoMLS system in January of 2013. This result, for properties sold on a per square foot net basis and for which pricing was disclosed at time of reporting, was down by approximately 15 per cent in comparison to January 2012. More than 75 per cent of space leased in January involved industrial properties. The amount of leased industrial space was down by close to 25 per cent compared to January 2012. The average lease rate was $5.25 per square foot net. This average rate represented an 11 per cent increase compared to January 2012. “A slow recovery in the export sector has presented headwinds for the industrial sector. However, the consensus outlook is for continued economic growth in 2013 in Canada. It is felt that improving global economic conditions will bolster exports. With this outlook in mind, it is likely that some industrial firms who put real estate investment on hold will once again become active in the market,” said TREB Commercial Division Chair Cynthia Lai. There were a combined 40 industrial, commercial/retail and office transactions in January – down from 58 sales in January 2012. The change in the average selling price per square foot was mixed and remained somewhat volatile on a year-over-year basis due to changes in the type, size and location of properties sold in January 2013 versus January 2012. “The large annual rate of price growth for industrial properties was due to the fact that no property larger than 50,000 square feet sold this past January versus four such transactions in January 2012. Larger properties generally sell at a lower price per square foot,” said Lai. “In the office market, the overall average selling price for January was up substantially over last year because the geographic breakdown of sales changed. This year there were more office transactions in the City of Toronto. All else being equal, office selling prices in the City of Toronto are higher compared to surrounding regions,” continued Lai. January 2013: Per Square Foot Net Commercial Leasing Summary Lease Transactions Completed on a Per Square Foot Net Basis with Pricing Disclosed on TorontoMLS Leased Sq. Ft. (Price Disclosed, Per Sq.Ft. Net) Avg. Lease Rate (Price Disclosed, Per Sq.Ft. Net) Jan. 2013 Jan. 2012 % Change Jan. 2013 Jan. 2012 % Change Industrial 298,284 395,943 -24.7% Industrial $5.25 $4.73 11.1% Commercial 65,315 21,611 202.2% Commercial $15.91 $21.66 -26.5% Office 28,285 43,488 -35.0% Office $10.81 $10.20 5.9% Total 391,884 461,042 -15.0% Source: TREB Commercial Division January 2013: Commercial Sales Completed with Pricing Disclosed on TorontoMLS Sales (Price Disclosed) Avg. Sale Price Per Sq. Ft. (Pricing Disclosed) Jan. 2013 Jan. 2012 % Change Jan. 2013 Jan. 2012 % Change Industrial 17 27 -37.0% Industrial $119.96 $60.27 99.0% Commercial 17 22 -22.7% Commercial $92.18 $149.52 -38.3% Office 6 9 -33.3% Office $325.25 $172.12 89.0% Total 40 58 -31.0%
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尿尿(xixu)送三个字自己去想:酸、贪、悲!
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现在出手买房还不算太迟,再等就只有继续上一年祥林嫂式的日子了😁
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http://tosolds.ca/?cat=3 这个网站可以看到所有GTA刚售出的房子信息。
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http://tosolds.ca/?cat=3 这个网站可以看到所有GTA刚售出的房子信息。
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Not bad, at least you are thinking. Jan 1-14, 2013 vs 2012 UP 16.7% HOT !!!! Jan 1-31, 2013 vs 2012 DOWN 5.2% COLD !!!! Somthing has happened? What happened? What's happening?
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You had me lost for a moment, what you mean is some people backed out from a deal? Or you mean treb is making up those numbers?
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回复 heap51:Nothing about what you said. Even though your guess was right, people backing out made a 20% turn around, wuh, what's behind their mind? No, the thing is if this market was so inconsistent, what does it represent? Or, who made this inconsistence? Yeah, one of my guess is these numbers are not real.
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回复 toren:What are you talking about? GTA REALTORS? RELEASE MONTHLY RESALE HOUSING FIGURES TORONTO, February 5, 2013 -- Greater Toronto Area REALTORS? reported 4,375 transactions through the TorontoMLS system in January 2013. This number represented a slight decline compared to 4,432 transactions reported in January 2012. “The January sales figures represent a good start to 2013. While the number of transactions was down slightly compared to last year, the rate of decline was much less than what was experienced in the second half of 2012. This suggests that some buyers, who put their decision to purchase on hold last year due to stricter mortgage lending guidelines, are once again becoming active in the market,” said Toronto Real Estate Board (TREB) President Ann Hannah. “It is interesting to note that sales were up for many home types in the GTA regions surrounding the City of Toronto. This is due, at least in part, to the additional upfront land transfer tax in the City of Toronto,” added Ms. Hannah. The average selling price for January 2013 sales was $482,648 – up by 4.3 per cent compared to $462,655 in January 2012. The MLS? Home Price Index (HPI) Composite Benchmark price was up by 3.8 per cent over the same period. “There will be enough competition between buyers in the marketplace to prompt continued growth in home prices in 2013. Expect annual average price growth in the three to five per cent range this year,” said Jason Mercer, TREB’s Senior Manager of Market Analysis. Greater Toronto REALTORS? are passionate about their work. They are governed by a strict Code of Ethics and share a state-of-the-art Multiple Listing Service. Over 36,000 TREB Members serve consumers in the Greater Toronto Area. The Toronto Real Estate Board is Canada’s largest real estate board. http://www.torontorealestateboard.com/market_news/release_market_updates/news2013/nr_market_watch_0113.htm
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不晚不晚,赶紧抢offer去
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Spend a few minutes to make a comparision with the data for Jan 1-14 The whole month vs first-half of the month. Anything interesting? 上半月的"量价齐升" 到月底变成了什么? http://www.torontorealestateboard.com/market_news/release_market_updates/news2013/nr_mid_month_0113.htmhttp://www.torontorealestateboard.com/market_news/release_market_updates/news2013/nr_mid_month_0113.htm 简单比较一下416区SEMI房 上半月销售升16.7%, 全月跌5.2%, 相差21.9%. 如果这个数据没有作假, 就说明了市场的变化是大头冲下, 二月会是如何? 如果不出意外,我们在二月还会见到同一市场变化模式. 地产局有没有在数据上动手脚? 目的是什么?
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前些天從地產周報上得到一份從1953年來的平均房價,情況是:從1989年到1996年,平均房價在下降外,其它年份的平均房價均在上漲,包括2001年的IT災難年及2008年的全美經濟大衰退年。 在2001年,平均房價上漲3.39%;在2008年,平均房價上漲0.83%;2009年,漲4.25%;2010年,漲9.10%;2011年,漲7.87%;2012年,漲6.85%。從2001年到現在,平均房價剛好翻了一倍! 現在經濟比2008年2009年強了很多,你說現在房價會不會跌。 我就一直等著2008年經濟衰退時的房價下跌,結果到頭來,現在決定買房,要多付近20萬。 如果你愿意等,那就繼續等吧! 曾經有人跟我說過:一步跟不上,永遠跟不上!
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别人跟不上就跟不上罢.你跟上不就行了. 你替别人着啥急? 想拖个垫背的?
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无忧老汉这老B,如站在我面前,我不一定能控制住我的拳头。
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其实他也不容易,以前在国内以他的文笔学识混得还算小可以,但到了这里连个杆象样的工作都没有,只能靠出租房屋来糊口。勉强混了个衣食无忧,每天在网上玩扑克打发时光。可怜。
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回复 快活每一天:这个你不懂 老汉练的不是扑克,是性情。不知进退的人或优柔寡断的人肯定成不了扑克高手。
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你打得倒老汉,打不到事实,这才是你抓狂的真正原因。
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绝大多数人都是凡人,凡人一辈子能做好一件事就不易了。老帮菜明白,要是能把攒土地房这一件事做好,至少比99.99%的人成功了。
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感觉那几个靠房子吃饭的人好像很紧张,特别是无忧老汉。
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很困惑无忧老汉一生的所有話題只有一個:房子
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他还负责观察邻家的辣妹,同时一并研究金瓶梅。不过,最近发现网上一男性网名频频向无忧明送冬波,“老不正经的”“老东西” 一任砸过去,所以怀疑无忧是不是观察的品位和级别提高了?
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回复 钱福:说话明朗些,不用太隐晦。老不正经重口味,喜欢观察邻家老太的屁股。
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回复 xuxi:一个爱读书一个爱劳动,都是健康爱好,偶就纳了闷了,怎么就惹着你了呢。
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俺不懂什么投资与地产分析,我只是知道平淡过日子,但是,没工作就没办法买房子。医院开始裁人了,第一批一共20几个护士,经济不好,谁还买房子?没人买房子,升什么升。
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真的? 省府多招的那些平均100元/小时的教师, 为啥不裁?
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回复 加拿大老张:安省的教师工会很强大的强盗,这不刚刚又大获全胜。安省护士没有工会,都裁好几拨了。
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回复 citi:安省护士好象也有什么组织的, 不过没有教师工会那样纪律严明, 不参加罢工, 每天罚$500. 还有是否给自由党省选花200万做广告, 差别很大滴.
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终于承认房价要下降了,哈哈哈
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你当心无忧老汉跟你急。
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之前不是有个人每个房市的贴子都说要反着看吗? 那现在"一月GTA销量止跌 公寓销量价格双降"是不是要看成"一月GTA销量继续跌 公寓销量价格双双涨"啊?
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这都什么世道? 一月份一同事想乘低买房,结果看中的一个房子居然有五个人抢,他没抢到。又看中一个,居然又来了三个〇ffer,这回他不敢抱有幻想,最终拿到了。 看这样子,hOuse可能不太容易跌,5o一80万相信是有比较强的需求的。半独立可能还会更吃香一些,因为首付提高,许多人不得不转向价格稍低的Semi了。
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作投资,要用最小的代价买到土地。 地上那点折旧的玩意就交给租客去耍了,反正他们出不起几个钱。
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没什么早晚,也没有什么机密,就是个存钱工具而已。 有闲钱买点土地黄金什么的,总比放在银行强。
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均价土地房?😕
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回复 at51:你有疑问吗?
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回复 无忧了:什么叫‘均价土地房’?
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看的是均价土地房,作投资用的。
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最近看open house, 发现南亚裔买房很疯狂,部分看跌的大陆无房户,只怕是永远无房了。
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几个月前一个印度JJ向我打探是否知道附近有老中打算卖房,他说不知为什么忽然连续有几位印度买家打听附近的房子,而此前的半年前(12年初),有卖家没有买家。 当时我在网上没敢说,怕人说我忽悠。
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房價没跌多小, 华人&老外论坛怨气急升...😀
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公寓销量价格双降 --- 量价齐跌!
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故事说明了,只有土地才是根
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Monthly up or down debate begins now. 😆
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何其幸之!差点儿丢了坐沙发的资格。历久经年地,骨子里无法释怀的农民情节,忽然转了性子跃跃欲试地扯了一张公寓的票子,好在迷途知返了。
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